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    M4Carbine.net Update Newsletter

    I just got through reading the m4carbine.net update newsletter, and would like to share with the staff that I enjoyed it. I don't remember ever getting one in the past. I get newsletters from quite a few different places, and a lot of them get glanced over before thrown in the trash. I liked this one for its simplicity and content. I would like to see this again, sometime. I would also like to thank Mr. Hackathorn for accepting M4C's invitation to share his thoughts.

    I would like to make a suggestion. It could prove helpful to include something along the line of a "helpful hint" to using the forum. Maybe there is a situation currently present that is affecting the experience that the members of this forum. I think back to the many "helpful hints" that AC shared with us. It seems that some rules are missed by those who need to see them most, or the use of proper etiquette may slip past others. Even placing a tiny snippet of AC's M4C style guide could do a little to help us all.
    To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society. --Theodore Roosevelt--

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    X2. It was a good read IMO.
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    This was also the first time that I have received a news letter. I actually pulled over to the side of the road to read it. I'm glad I did as I usually do a lot more deleting than I do reading any emails.
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    I really appreciate Hackathorn taking the time to write and share some of his experience.
    I am looking forward to reading his further insights.

    "Addressing the problem of shootings by ban or confiscation of non-criminal's guns is like addressing the problem of rape by chopping off the Johnson of everyone who DIDN't rape anyone while not only leaving the rapists' equipment intact, but giving them free viagra to boot." --Me

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    Where does one sign up for the newsletter?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    X2. It was a good read IMO.
    X3 looking forward to next one.
    I actually almost deleted it when I was doing my normal Email inbox purge, had to do a double take.
    ^^ Read with southern accent !^^ and blame all grammatical errors on Alabama's public school system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwgibson View Post
    Where does one sign up for the newsletter?


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    This info please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwgibson View Post
    Where does one sign up for the newsletter?
    Quote Originally Posted by UDT View Post
    This info please.
    The email states, "You are receiving this email because you opted in at our website." I don't know for sure, but you probably need to go into your settings and make sure that you can receive email from the forum administrators.

    On a side note, I like the quote that Mr. Hackathorn used to end his thoughts.

    Check your flanks, good shooting, and remember.....don't be an easy target. Move from one point of cover to another. Blend in with your surroundings, be the “grey man.” Don't waste ammo; guys that do magazine dumps draw lots of fire. Stay safe.

    -Ken Hackathorn
    To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society. --Theodore Roosevelt--

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    Here are Mr. Hackathorns's thoughts from the M4C update, for those that did not receive it.

    Ken Hackathorn's Take
    Sage wisdom from the grandfather of the gun industry

    One of the easy things for me to do at this point in my life is look back on 30 plus years in the firearms training field and note the trends that have evolved. Many years ago (back in the day) I was flying home from a training gig, and I think after expenses I had cleared about $500 for a two day class with about 18 students....big money in those days. The fellow sitting next to me was one of those that liked to talk...not my favorite passenger type. He asked the usual things like where are you going and what do you do. I told him I was a firearms instructor, he had a rather pained look on his face and asked “is there any money in that?” I must admit, I was somewhat taken back in that, and, after some thought, replied, “pretty amazing isn't it.” In reality, firearms training was much like the Maytag repair man: there wasn't much demand in those days. John Farnam and I were the only two traveling road shows in the USA early on. Now, there are as many firearms trainers as there used to be video stores. Like those, I predict that we are seeing the peak in the industry, and nothing but hard times ahead will be the rule for many of those now trying to make it big in this business. I wish them all well, but I am really glad I am slowing to a crawl in the firearms training business.

    For many years I wrote for various firearms magazines....got my start with Soldier of Fortune. Col. Bob Brown asked me to do a column for the then new SOF publication. I told him I didn't have a clue about writing. His advice was, “write it the way you would say it, and I have editors to make it readable”. I wrote for various gun magazines for over 15 years, and it was mainly to get my name out there for my training business. Back then, gun rags were the medium for information if you were part of the gun world. That has totally changed with the internet and TV becoming the newest medium. I chose to leave the gun writer world when it became embarrassing to be associated with what had become of the gun magazines. They had some really knowledgeable writers, but were rapidly being replaced by clowns that were clueless and would write whatever puff piece the editor wanted on guns and gear that were total crap. It got to a point when people I met would often say. “I read your articles all the time”. My response was “don't hold that against me” as often the editors would alter the material submitted to a point that it was a surprise for me to read my stuff as it was to everyone else. The company I had to keep in that arena got kind of hard to handle.

    Now, after so many years of traveling far and wide teaching combat marksmanship to police, military, and private sector customers, I am nearly in the same state of mind as I was when I walked away from the gun writing business. Please note, I never claimed to be “good writer”, but at least I tried to tell it the way it was. Nearly anyone remotely interested in the Gun Culture is aware of the growth of firearms training in America. Most of it is okay, some mediocre, some pitiful, and a lot of it is pure ass clownery. At times I flinch when I see some of the stuff being marketed. I'm an older guy, maybe a bit out of touch with much of what goes on in this world. I always felt that my job was to give the students their money's worth. Sometimes they don't get what they want, but they do get what they need. I take my job seriously. The scope of what I teach is serious shit....none of it is designed to be for pure pleasure. It can be very enjoyable to be skilled with small arms, but while I want my students to have a great time on the range, and have fun while training, I am not being paid to “entertain”. Many of us in the small arms training field joke about students wanting “entertrainment.” Some instructors have taken this concept to new levels. Some make good money doing it. Good for them, but it is not my cup of tea.

    In future installments of M4 Carbine’s Newsletter I will discuss many of the things I have learned and observed in the firearms training business over the last few decades. I have changed what I teach and how I teach constantly based upon the fact that “life is about change.” Sometimes we don't like it, but it is the way things go. Some of you may not like what I have to say, or disagree with my comments. So be it. I am simply going to tell you what I have learned and what I have discovered. You don't have to agree with me, and trust me, I won't get into a pissing match with you on the internet over it. I do not post...never have...never will. There is NOTHING to be gained for me by going online to say anything. I admit that I had great reservations about even taking part in providing material for this newsletter. I see it as a slightly newer version of the gun writing era. Stay tuned, maybe you will learn something from my observations.

    Check your flanks, good shooting, and remember.....don't be an easy target. Move from one point of cover to another. Blend in with your surroundings, be the “grey man.” Don't waste ammo; guys that do magazine dumps draw lots of fire. Stay safe.

    -Ken Hackathorn
    To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society. --Theodore Roosevelt--

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    "I'm an older guy, maybe a bit out of touch with much of what goes on in this world. I always felt that my job was to give the students their money's worth. Sometimes they don't get what they want, but they do get what they need. I take my job seriously. The scope of what I teach is serious shit....none of it is designed to be for pure pleasure."

    I teach in a defense-related field and found this section so spot-on that I had to laugh out loud at his comment. Great stuff...please keep publishing these missives.

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