Overt vs Covert Gear in a SHTF Situation

[docsherm]

To be honest, I was three beers in when I was reading it, but I believe that the gov had already lost the city, but the civilians were putting up a fight and the government was trying to come back in. I am probably wrong about the location, but the site was very good. It had pictures of most of the stuff he was talking about.

The moving around during the day thing was to try and avoid getting shot at by snipers (from both sides) and to try not to attract too much attention by activity within a house. His house had two or three families all living in about 1700 square feet (10 people) and they felt it was safer because of continual survelance of the house, even when groups left to go barter and trade.

I have been there... LOL


Either way it still sounds interesting. I hope that you can find it.

[Ironman8]

I have been there... LOL


Either way it still sounds interesting. I hope that you can find it.

Sounds like either what Moose mentioned in Post #60:

Selco, a blogger who survived the Bosnian War talks about this in his writings. They would only go out and move at night as sniper fire was such a threat. During such chaos there would be a lot of trigger happy/kill crazy people not just those looking at releaving you of your possessions.

Edit to add a link to his site:

http://shtfschool.com/

OR a guy who posted under "FerFAL" (can't remember which forum/blog) talking about his experience in Argentina's 2001 collapse. Seems he's made it into a book now: http://www.amazon.com/The-Modern-Sur.../dp/9870563457

I remember the FerFAL stuff beig pretty good.

[nimdabew]

Sounds like either what Moose mentioned in Post #60:


OR a guy who posted under "FerFAL" (can't remember which forum/blog) talking about his experience in Argentina's 2001 collapse. Seems he's made it into a book now: http://www.amazon.com/The-Modern-Sur.../dp/9870563457

I remember the FerFAL stuff beig pretty good.

It was similar, but this guy was talking about his actual experiences. The city looked more arid and less about what should be done. I would have to dig through that site more to confirm/deny.

[South]

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[Chatterbox]

Here it is ( I think ).
http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2015/03/1...m-ukraine.html

[Moose-Knuckle]

Yes, "Selco" survived with his family in Bosnia during the war, greatest death tolls in Europe since WWII. He speaks from his first hand accounts of urban survival as the city was under siege and surrounded for the duration of the War, Bosnia that was a nasty bit of business for sure.

"FerFal" survived with his family in Argentina after their financial collapse in the eary '00s.

Both have blogs and are invaluable resources IMHO.

[Turnkey11]

The locals working with KBR had a lot of interesting stories to tell, when I was in Bosnia it seemed like there was a generational gap of men missing. Our cook that we took to Glamoc for gunnery had been executed and left for dead; he had been shot 6 times in the chest with an AK and lived to chain smoke in the chow tent and say **** between every other english word.

[Chatterbox]

I find the first point most pertinent - you cannot survive against organized opposition when SHTF. There will be militia/raider/bandit groups forming if rule of law goes away, and unless you join one you will likely be somebody's lunch.

[nimdabew]

Below is Selco's full account. It has been taken down on most sites, as he has a paid website now. Really interesting stuff.

http://tacticalintelligence.net/blog...nd-account.htm

I believe this is what I read.

ETA: If I remember correctly, one of the biggest things that was always a hot commodity was lighters, the kind you get in 96 packs from Costco. It means so little to us now, but when the SHTF, those $.20 lighters are the difference between eating a warm meal and chewing on raw whateveryoufind. Which reminds me, I need to go to Costco...

[sevenhelmet]

I've read some of Ferfal's stuff, and it's very compelling. He has a lot of common-sense solutions that can be implemented even on a very modest budget.