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    Quote Originally Posted by mseiferth View Post
    So you're saying that I have a problem 'cause I'm a lefty?!?

    At least I'm in my right mind...


    I agree on the second point. It all comes down to your level of training.
    I'm a lefty too, my point was that the firearms world is "prejudiced" against you. It's a problem that we all have to deal with.

    Condition yourself to function with a right-handed weapon rather than customize your weapon to function with your left-handedness.

    It IS all about training.
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    Lightbulb same here

    Quote Originally Posted by tiger seven View Post
    I'm a lefty (actually I'm cross-dominant, but I shoot left-handed) and I've had no problems shooting standard ARs. If I did I wouldn't own so many. I think the AR-15 is one of the most "lefty friendly" weapons there is. Ejection of brass is not a problem, unlike some other designs...

    To me the left-handed AR is a solution in search of a problem. Yes, they work; but I don't like the idea of owning a weapon that has critical components (namely the bolt carrier group) that use non-standard and generally single-source parts. The only company I know of that makes a complete left-handed AR is Stag Arms. I think DPMS may, but I try not to pay attention to what DPMS is doing.

    Derek
    i generally shoot from the left eye. although i am right handed. i have never had a left-handed AR . i haven't had any problems with any RH- AR platform with the built in brass deflector.

    i could build a left hand AR easy enough but i don't see it as that much of a problem. and i prefer to keep all my parts to a standard design.--just my .02!

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    My friend, I think your idea of a "battlefield pickup" is a bit narrow. You need expand this to "active killer" scenarios where you come onto the scene (by accident) kill one of the bad guys and take his weapons (which is most likely superior to your handgun).
    C4
    i stick that under the 'civilian encounter/scenario' file, rather than 'battlefield'. plus, i'm only planning on killing a bad guy with an ambi weapon

    gutshot john - i wouldn't say that the firearms world is still prejudiced against lefties. maybe in the past, but things are changing, and the incorporation of ambi controls on new weapons (especially for the military) is a sign of the times.

    it's got nothing to do with the ability to operate a weapon safely with or without ambi mods. adding ambi controls to an AR just optimizes it for lefties the way it is for righties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by militarymoron View Post
    gutshot john - i wouldn't say that the firearms world is still prejudiced against lefties. maybe in the past, but things are changing, and the incorporation of ambi controls on new weapons (especially for the military) is a sign of the times.
    While it may be changing, there is a long way to go before there is even a sizable minority of weapons where left-handers were considered.

    In the meantime the southpaw is better served by learning to adapt...or sit in the back left-corner with all the other left-hand desks.

    it's got nothing to do with the ability to operate a weapon safely with or without ambi mods. adding ambi controls to an AR just optimizes it for lefties the way it is for righties.
    I disagree.

    I understand why you want to optimize ambi controls, I just don't see the need short of a safety issue.
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    that's why this is a personal preference/opinion issue that doesn't ever get resolved - kind of like religion or politics

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    I agree totally.

    The question was whether one "needs" a lefty m4.

    You can definitely WANT one based on your own personal preferences. Over the years I've made concessions to being a left-handed shooter. I'm not convinced that they were worthwhile in retrospect that could not have been better addressed by training and practice.

    You don't NEED one to operate an M4 effectively.
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    I'm a lefty, and grew up shooting righty weapons. There really is no reason to own a lefty rifle/pistol IMO other than just to have one.

    I bought a Stag lefty because it was differnt. The only real issue I've had with shells in the face on a right handed AR was when I was shooting my dad's righty pistol. I took one or two to the cheek, but other than that I haven't had too many problems with AR rifles with buttstocks.


    I actually prefer B/A rifles in righty, because I can cycle the bolt with my right hand while keeping my left on the rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mseiferth View Post
    OK....Let me postulate here for a moment. I arrive "on scene". I deploy my sidearm and dispatch said BG. I know have the opportunity to take command of "his/hers superior" weapon (for sake of argument, we'll assume it is a rifle). I'm now armed with a rifle to continue to defend myself (and others)....

    What if the "rifle" is of a platform that I'm not familiar with at all (*FAL, Daewoo, HKG36, FS2000, CETME)? Does this mean that my lefty configured AR is going to hinder me??

    Don't you think that someone with even minimal training would be able to pickup said firearm and make it run?

    Thoughts?



    *I realize that most BG's would use something more mainstream. I merely mentioned the rifles above for conversation...
    The assumption is that you have a pistol (CCW) and take a long gun. You of course never know what kind of weapon it will be so this is why it is a good idea to at least become well versed with the more common weapons used (AK, Shotgun, AR).

    I watch too many people with "minimal training" fail to operate their own weapons at training classes. I am hesitant to say that they will run another's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by militarymoron View Post
    i stick that under the 'civilian encounter/scenario' file, rather than 'battlefield'. plus, i'm only planning on killing a bad guy with an ambi weapon

    gutshot john - i wouldn't say that the firearms world is still prejudiced against lefties. maybe in the past, but things are changing, and the incorporation of ambi controls on new weapons (especially for the military) is a sign of the times.

    it's got nothing to do with the ability to operate a weapon safely with or without ambi mods. adding ambi controls to an AR just optimizes it for lefties the way it is for righties.
    Any time I am in a gun fight, I classify that as a "battlefield!" I think the odds of you having your AR in time of need are slim. Confronting someone with your pistol (CCW) is MUCH more realistic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    I watch too many people with "minimal training" fail to operate their own weapons at training classes. I am hesitant to say that they will run another's.
    C4
    i'm very consistent. i can fail to operate not only my own, but other weapons just as easily.

    gutshot john - on the same page finally! i agree re: NEED vs. 'better for me personally/optimized'. you're right - you don't NEED a lefty AR or controls to operate it (or else i'd have been at a loss all these years before ambi stuff came out).

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