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Thread: Help, I was just issued a DPMS?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Ever heard of Vietnam? Ask a Vet from that war about non chromed lined M16's.


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    That wasnt the answer I was looking for

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb2007 View Post
    That wasnt the answer I was looking for

    Actually it is, you just don't know it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by eb2007 View Post
    Noob q: Why is the lack of a chrome lined barrel bad?
    If you're shooting for accuracy (competitions, etc.) and you're not shooting full auto, barrels without chrome lining are better. However, if you're in the elements, using it for defense (lots of rounds), etc., then chrome lining is a blessing. It preserves the life of the barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb2007 View Post
    That wasnt the answer I was looking for
    Because heat and moisture can screw up a carbon steel barrel quickly even if your are diligent about keeping it clean. Chrome rusts but at a much, much slower rate than carbon steel. The other thing is chrome is much harder than carbon steel. A chromed barrel will have a longer lifespan than one that isn't chromed.

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    abnartyguy,

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    I doubt he will be throwing the kind of rounds downrange where a CL will matter or that he will not have the facilities to clean them. Living in the Suck of Nam and on a fob or LSA in the box are two different animals. I highly doubt the DPMS is auto or even burst so its not like he is going to burn the barrel up.


    Just check everything over and make sure the fucntions tests work. Throw atleat 500 rounds down range in one shooting to make sure its reliable. Make sure you have good mags and they are not the problem. Anything that looks well worn or not right, replace with quality parts. The only real concern I would have is the LPK. If you have to order a quality one and replace it.

    If you are still uncomfortable, just order a LMT upper wth BCG and apropriate buffer/spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Ever heard of Vietnam? Ask a Vet from that war about non chromed lined M16's.


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    I think the lack of proper cleaning & especially lube had far more to do with failures in Vietnam than not having a chrome lined bore.( probably 99%)That being said,I believe a chrome lined bore will be a bit more forgiving-all else being equal.If he has problems with his barrel due to not being chrome lined,I would think he should have been issued something other than an M16 / M4.
    No, I've not served in the military,if I'm wrong about the barrel,please educate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurretGunner View Post
    I doubt he will be throwing the kind of rounds downrange where a CL will matter or that he will not have the facilities to clean them. Living in the Suck of Nam and on a fob or LSA in the box are two different animals. I highly doubt the DPMS is auto or even burst so its not like he is going to burn the barrel up.


    Just check everything over and make sure the fucntions tests work. Throw atleat 500 rounds down range in one shooting to make sure its reliable. Make sure you have good mags and they are not the problem. Anything that looks well worn or not right, replace with quality parts. The only real concern I would have is the LPK. If you have to order a quality one and replace it.

    If you are still uncomfortable, just order a LMT upper wth BCG and apropriate buffer/spring.
    He is in a hostile environment. While it is not Vietnam, it is also not a day at the range. I would pass on NOT having chrome lining in a fighting weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BYUP View Post
    I think the lack of proper cleaning & especially lube had far more to do with failures in Vietnam than not having a chrome lined bore.( probably 99%)That being said,I believe a chrome lined bore will be a bit more forgiving-all else being equal.If he has problems with his barrel due to not being chrome lined,I would think he should have been issued something other than an M16 / M4.
    No, I've not served in the military,if I'm wrong about the barrel,please educate.

    No doubt that the lack of cleaning and poor ammo was also a major issue, but so is lack of Chrome. Chrome does many things for a barrel. Protects is, adds lubricity, extends wear and in general, increases reliability.

    His weapon might have 20,000rds through it and be shot out. If it was chrome lined, he wouldn't have to be concerned about such things.



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    Unfortunately not all PMC's here in theater are squared away and give their guys good kit. Many have handed out AK's and other weapons as well as ammo w/o even knowing if the stuff was good to go. Some guys get a few mags and are told to "procure" their own. So I wouldn't assume that proper cleaning gear and knowledgable personnel will be available to troubleshoot and fix shit when needed. Fortunately some of us network to take car of each other .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurretGunner View Post
    I doubt he will be throwing the kind of rounds downrange where a CL will matter or that he will not have the facilities to clean them. Living in the Suck of Nam and on a fob or LSA in the box are two different animals. I highly doubt the DPMS is auto or even burst so its not like he is going to burn the barrel up.


    Just check everything over and make sure the fucntions tests work. Throw atleat 500 rounds down range in one shooting to make sure its reliable. Make sure you have good mags and they are not the problem. Anything that looks well worn or not right, replace with quality parts. The only real concern I would have is the LPK. If you have to order a quality one and replace it.

    If you are still uncomfortable, just order a LMT upper wth BCG and apropriate buffer/spring.

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