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    Wacky Cross between vintage, new, and prototype AR-15

    So my 18 year old son got this crazy idea because he's way more gun nuts than me. He got this idea from shooting a M1C Garande with the off-set scope. He mounted a scope on the side of the gun using angle mounts so he can run regular Irons and a scope at the same time. He says its not complete, partly because the lower you see in the picture is my stag arms. He says he going to add a tear drop forward assist and give it a SP1 Carbine lower style using a Nodak Spud Lower but with an aluminium butt stock. Tell me what you think because we are going to shoot his Frankien-gun soon and I'll post the results and a video of it.
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    It seems neat. If it works, and he likes it, more power to him.

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    Scope doesn't look positioned to get a natural/comfortable/consistent cheek weld. The bottom of the cheek bone should be resting on the comb of the stock, not below/beside it.

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    I've never seen an offset scope mounted that way before. It seems like something which would be suitable only for a very specialized application, like shooting from an unusual position or with unusual equipment. I'm skeptical, but good luck with the build!
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    I would mount the scope correctly and have the irons offset.

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    Interesting idea... but ditch it and move on. The M1 scope was offset to facilitate loading the enbloc clips. It wasnt ideal it was neccessary. This is pointless as well as adds potential zeroing issues. Unless he keeps a constant hold hes going to need different dope for different ranges as far as windage is concerned.

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    Personally, I would reverse the scope mounts to the right side of the rifle - provided it doesn't impede ejection - and use the scope by "rolling" the rifle counterclockwise along the bore axis, maintaining a consistent cheek weld. To me, this would seem to answer the issue of a user who occasionally needs magnification, has a rifle with a permanent FSB, but absolutely cannot stand the 6 o'clock "sight shadow" a conventionally-mounted scope picks up. It would also allow easier manipulation of a standard charging handle, without the ocular lens getting in the way.

    Just add a decent rear sight (possibly non-folding) and it'd be complete. I like it!
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    It's definitely ...... unorthodox.
    It's like your irons are your primary, and the scope is your backup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KUSA View Post
    I would mount the scope correctly and have the irons offset.
    I agree with this if I were to go with this setup, but vintage AR15 parts aren't my thing in the first place.

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    As I recall the M1 Garand had to have the scope mounted in such a way. The AR15 does not. This build really makes no sense other than to say its "special".



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