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Thread: Praying (suppressor) bill passes in IA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    You beat me to it. Lawyers have done a fantastic job of convincing the community that we need to give them our money but the fact of the matter most people don't even realize what a trust can and cannot do or why they may or may not need one. Unfortunately there are people who can't get CLEO sign-off and that's the single biggest reason and that loop hole is going to be closed because everyone is abusing it which has brought WAY too much attention to it. I've got dozens of NFA items registered personally and they all perform exactly as they would if they were on a trust. I rest easy at night knowing that if anything happens to me someone close to me is getting a nice collection of NFA items w/o having to pay a dime.

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    It seems that some of us Nebraskans still possess some degree of common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
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    It seems that some of us Nebraskans still possess some degree of common sense.
    So where is the best place to get pro's and con's on which is the best way to go? I figured the trust would be better so the wife could use the suppressor also?

    Thanks Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by sac View Post
    So where is the best place to get pro's and con's on which is the best way to go? I figured the trust would be better so the wife could use the suppressor also?
    Who is going to care if your wife uses the can? Especially in IA.

    Now... I don't keep my friends' cans at my house if I'm working on their guns... just to be extra cautious... but within immediate family, I don't see anyone giving a crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sac View Post
    So where is the best place to get pro's and con's on which is the best way to go? I figured the trust would be better so the wife could use the suppressor also?

    Thanks Scott
    IMHO, if you can get CLEO sign-off then you don't need a trust. Simple as that. There is absolutely zero case law to support any spouse ever even being charged for being in 'possession' of an NFA item w/o the registered spouse present. This idea that you're not home and your wife has to use your NFA item to protect herself and the kiddos and then being charged with criminal possession of an NFA item in a clean shoot is ridiculous and completely fabricated by fear mongering lawyers trying to get your hard earned money. It's your money and you can do whatever you like but personally I only jump through the hoops that I HAVE to to exercise my freedoms. If you don't make a hoop or the hoop defies common sense then I'm not interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Who is going to care if your wife uses the can? Especially in IA.

    Now... I don't keep my friends' cans at my house if I'm working on their guns... just to be extra cautious... but within immediate family, I don't see anyone giving a crap.
    I see your point. I thought the way the law was, if it was registered to me I was the only one that could use it, but in a trust all people in the trust could use it legally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    ...Unfortunately there are people who can't get CLEO sign-off and that's the single biggest reason and that loop hole is going to be closed because everyone is abusing it which has brought WAY too much attention to it.
    So what's the alternative if a CLEO won't sign off? Certainly, you can't blame someone for going the trust route in that situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryno12 View Post
    So what's the alternative if a CLEO won't sign off? Certainly, you can't blame someone for going the trust route in that situation.
    Where in my posts did I say that nobody should do it? I believe I was quite specific in my posts already about this exact instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sac View Post
    I see your point. I thought the way the law was, if it was registered to me I was the only one that could use it, but in a trust all people in the trust could use it legally.
    Yeah. It's complete insanity. Around here, nobody even looks at you if you have a can or an SBR because they're so common. I've never heard of anyone having their forms or papers checked for anything. No one I shoot with even has copies of papers with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    IMHO, if you can get CLEO sign-off then you don't need a trust. Simple as that. There is absolutely zero case law to support any spouse ever even being charged for being in 'possession' of an NFA item w/o the registered spouse present. This idea that you're not home and your wife has to use your NFA item to protect herself and the kiddos and then being charged with criminal possession of an NFA item in a clean shoot is ridiculous and completely fabricated by fear mongering lawyers trying to get your hard earned money. It's your money and you can do whatever you like but personally I only jump through the hoops that I HAVE to to exercise my freedoms. If you don't make a hoop or the hoop defies common sense then I'm not interested.
    Thanks that clears up alot.

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