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    Quote Originally Posted by simonsez View Post
    Very helpful! Thanks lobstradomus! You and Adrenaline 6 must be what they call flash-a-holics?
    Happy to help, hopefully you can find the right light for your needs. Yes, my name is lobstradomus and I'm a flashaholic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrenaline_6 View Post
    ...and once you get your modded light in, you might be one too!
    Agreed, there are plenty of different ways to get hooked. Some people go for the refined custom jobs hewn from exotic materials such as titanium or damascus steel and fitted with tritium vials, others go for the beastly multi-emitter or massive industrial size LED powerhouses putting out a wall of several thousand lumens, others go for the long distance throwers with customized LED's using aspheric lenses or massive reflectors, a few become tint snobs - looking for that perfect balance of color temperature and color rendering index... It's a dangerous hobby to get involved in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBecker 72 View Post
    How does the M600U rate in the "throw" department. I've been impressed with mine, just curious how it rates.
    The M600U uses a TIR optic that is able to focus the light tighter than a regular reflector like the ones used in the G2X/6PX/P2X lights, as a result the P2X with its 600 lumens is calculated to have a beam distance of 243 meters while the M600U with its 500 lumens is calculated at a distance of 260 meters.

    Quote Originally Posted by samuse View Post
    +1.

    I've been using a P2x Fury 500 lumen and it's fine out 50-75 yards depending on the night.

    I also shot with a P3X Fury 1000 lumen and it was a little better. 100 yards with a 4X scope was easy as long as the target was contrasting (no illuminuted reticle).

    What gets me at night with magnified optics is haze. It's real humid around here and when it gets close to dewpoint, it's hazy.
    The P3X uses a reflector like the P2X but because the P3X is generating 1,000 lumens it basically bludgeons its way to a calculated distance of 297 meters. If you want some of the more technical details of how it actually manages that the term you want to research is surface brightness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lobstradomus View Post
    The M600U uses a TIR optic that is able to focus the light tighter than a regular reflector like the ones used in the G2X/6PX/P2X lights, as a result the P2X with its 600 lumens is calculated to have a beam distance of 243 meters while the M600U with its 500 lumens is calculated at a distance of 260 meters.
    Thanks for the info.

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    Tag it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonsez View Post
    I went out to let the dog in the other night and smelled a pretty good wiff of skunk! I realized that since he didn't smell too bad that it must not have been a direct spray, but rather wafting in on the fairly strong wind. I grabbed the AR and headed outside to check it out and make sure it moved on. I have had a surefire G2X tactical for awhile but have not gotten a mount for it since I installed the Noveske rail. I clamped it to the rail with my hand and scanned the perimeter of the property and surrounding fields. It lit the property well, but the beam left a lot to be desired for distance illumination. Do you guys and gals have any options for a longer throw weapon light? I would rather not have it too much larger than the G2X, and I would like something that is at least 400 yards capable for target ID. I am open to other options besides surefire also.
    For the same form-factor (handheld) and ability to use the same mount, I would look at the Streamlight ProTac HL3. It's a 3-cell CR123 light rated @ 1100 lumens/36,000 candela, with a pretty good bang/buck ratio. I have one that I picked up for well under $80, and it is more than adequate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freefly View Post
    For the same form-factor (handheld) and ability to use the same mount, I would look at the Streamlight ProTac HL3. It's a 3-cell CR123 light rated @ 1100 lumens/36,000 candela, with a pretty good bang/buck ratio. I have one that I picked up for well under $80, and it is more than adequate.
    Thanks, I'll check it out!

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    The Streamlight PolyTac HP throws pretty far, but not as far as their TLR1 HP. That's what I run on my 16" carbine with a 1-4x on it, I'm happy with the performance out to 100+ yards. The new TLR1-HPL should be shipping soon, and that might be the new distance king for of the shelf WML's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lobstradomus View Post
    It's a dangerous hobby to get involved in.
    Which is one of the reasons I had to back away for awhile. I was always buying another light or two for every new bin of every new LED that came out. After awhile I ended up with enough flashlights to supply a small army. The difference in performance between each successive new "bad-ass" LED was usually so insignificant that I've been a happier man waiting every couple of years between lights now. Nothing like skipping a few bins or LEDs in general just to get that "Wow that's bright" feeling again - it's like a heroin junky looking for that first high.

    I used to upgrade my computer twice a year and could never detect that much difference in performance. Now I treat my computers the same way and I'm absolutely blown away by two year old technology. Try it... you'll be a richer happier man.

    But seriously, it's a dangerous hobby. I inadvertently made a hand grenade while trying to drive an XM-L I found with a salvaged driver. I measured 5A at the tailcap before it blew. It was insanely bright for about 3 minutes. I blame the Efest IMR 18650s I was using. Another reason I don't trust multi-cell lithium lights anymore. I also don't really mess with rechargeables. Having to constantly keep up with them and keep a minimum charge in them was eating up too much of my time. I have like 2000 primaries anyway. Needless to say, I don't modify many lights these days.

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