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    Question Using Earmuffs while shooting your AR looking down scope? How do you make this work?

    I am using a very thin pair of Peltor Tactical 100 earmuffs and no matter what I do I cannot get a good cheek weld and still be able to see down the center of the scope at the same time.

    I have tried just using a pair of SureFire Sonic Defender EP5 earplugs and it doesn't feel like it's enough for me so I like using earmuffs.

    BUT I cannot use a scope hardly at all while using muffs shooting from a range bench ... If I do get a good sight I have to pull down my shooting glasses cause I am looking at the top of the frame once I find a good spot with muffs on.

    If I take the muffs off I can see down the scope perfectly with my shooting glasses on no problem.

    Anyone else have this problem?

    I thought about getting the higher AD Recon mount which is 0.5" higher .... But I wanted to see what that would be like so I molded a plastic piece that was about 0.45" thick and placed that under my mount to see where that would put my scope and the dang thing was just to high then and my cheek weld was almost gone ... so that kinda blew that thought out of the water for me.

    How do you guys shoot from a range bench using a scope on a standard 1.5" mount with your muffs on and still be able to see down the pipe of the scope?

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    I wear doubles when I shoot rifles. Doubles as in foamies with electronic muff over the top. I can get a good cheek weld with a bit of a loss of seal on my right ear. The left ear remains completely sealed and there is still a good portion of the right ear covered by the muff with the foamie underneath. I hope that made sense.
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    You call your parents and sarcastically thank them for giving you a freakishly shaped head, then pony up $200 and pay for a tax stamp. Or do what he^ said and stuff.
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    I've only seen it as an issue when the muffs are HUGE, or more often, when the shooter is laying his head over top of the stock instead of keeping his face vertical.
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    Have you guys tried the Howard Leight "Impact Sport" electronic muffs? I tried Peltors at first but found them too cumbersome. The shape of the Howard Leight muffs are very conducive to establishing cheek weld when shooting a rifle. Do not let the low price point scare you away either; they are made very well. They function as well as my Peltors did and are every bit as robust.

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    Using plugs and muffs will go a long way in keeping your ears safe if the muff happens to come up just a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by sidewaysil80 View Post
    Have you guys tried the Howard Leight "Impact Sport" electronic muffs? I tried Peltors at first but found them too cumbersome. The shape of the Howard Leight muffs are very conducive to establishing cheek weld when shooting a rifle. Do not let the low price point scare you away either; they are made very well. They function as well as my Peltors did and are every bit as robust.
    I've been using the same two pairs of Howard Leight's at least once a week for about three years now... Never had a problem with them in the rain, snow, unrelenting heat, etc. I trust them as much as any other piece of gear upon which I stake my safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    I've only seen it as an issue when the muffs are HUGE, or more often, when the shooter is laying his head over top of the stock instead of keeping his face vertical.
    This was my thought reading the OP. Can you post a pic of you aiming? I have the same earpro and I don't even notice im wearing it. I have a 1-4 in a larue 104 mount so it should be an identical setup for all intensive purposes.

    Edit: just checked - I have .75" of clearance between bottom of muffs and stock - std m4 stock. Maybe your eye/ear relationship is unique?
    Last edited by MegademiC; 03-22-15 at 00:45.

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    As others have said, I solved the same issue by switching to the Howard Leights. Great electronic ear pro for the price.
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    Doubling up is a great idea to protect your hearing. Over the years I purchased several pair of earmuffs, while searching for the perfect pair to shoot M1 Garands, 1903 Springfields, etc. Two pair I found work well when shooting rifles are the Howard Leight Lof and a pair of Caldwell electronic muffs I purchased from Menards Home Improvement Store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    I've only seen it as an issue when the muffs are HUGE, or more often, when the shooter is laying his head over top of the stock instead of keeping his face vertical.
    I have tried many ways of laying my cheek on the stock ... trying to get more vertical is not easy to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by sidewaysil80 View Post
    Have you guys tried the Howard Leight "Impact Sport" electronic muffs? I tried Peltors at first but found them too cumbersome. The shape of the Howard Leight muffs are very conducive to establishing cheek weld when shooting a rifle. Do not let the low price point scare you away either; they are made very well. They function as well as my Peltors did and are every bit as robust.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedRacer View Post
    As others have said, I solved the same issue by switching to the Howard Leights. Great electronic ear pro for the price.
    I had the Howard Leight Impact Sports and they are MUCH worse then the Peltor Tactical 100's I have now ... They have a larger over cub and they are longer as well so they hit the stock much sooner then the Peltors I have now.

    So as far as earmuffs go I have the best thinnest and minimalist cups size and diameter there is for this issue. I have tried many and these are the best ... But still not good enough.
    Current Arms:
    - BCM 16" ELW w/13" KMR on Spikes Lower AR-15
    - Arsenal Bulgarian SAM7R AK47
    - CZ Shadow 2
    - CZ P-10c FDE
    - CZ EVO 3 Carbine FDE
    - Smith & Wesson M&P9 Shield
    - Sig P365
    - Walther Arms PPQ M2 9mm
    - Ruger Precision Rifle .308
    - Beretta A300 Outlander 12G Shotgun
    - And other stuff I can't talk about

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