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Thread: Using Earmuffs while shooting your AR looking down scope? How do you make this work?

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    I would try thinner profile electric muffs as already suggested. I run Sordins, and don't have any issues

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    I didn't see it mentioned but maybe you need to raise the scope/sight. I prefer to be a little more "heads up" than to struggle with getting my head down low enough. But, that's just me.
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    OP,
    Can you post a pic of your setup so we can see what you are working with? Sounds like it may be technique or setup issue.

    I use the Howard Leights with foamies myself.
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    Using Earmuffs while shooting your AR looking down scope? How do you make thi...

    Quote Originally Posted by falconman515 View Post
    I have tried many ways of laying my cheek on the stock ... trying to get more vertical is not easy to do.





    I had the Howard Leight Impact Sports and they are MUCH worse then the Peltor Tactical 100's I have now ... They have a larger over cub and they are longer as well so they hit the stock much sooner then the Peltors I have now.

    So as far as earmuffs go I have the best thinnest and minimalist cups size and diameter there is for this issue. I have tried many and these are the best ... But still not good enough.
    Try placing the stock over your pec more. If you have it out in your shoulder pocket it can cause you to have to tilt your head more.
    Last edited by Inkslinger; 03-22-15 at 12:14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkslinger View Post
    Try placing the stock over your pec more. If you have it out in you shoulder pocket it can cause you to have to tilt your head more.
    I was thinking the same thing. Sounds like you need to bring the rifle in closer towards the center of your chest to where your cheekbone comes down directly on top of the stock when shouldering. Also turn your head slightly to the point that your nose is or almost is pointing at your charging handle. I can shoulder a rifle wearing the thick Howard Leight L1's, Impact Sports, and Peltor 100's with no issues this way.

    If you're already doing that and your optic is already in a somewhat high mount then I'm going to guess you've got some really low sitting ears and this is just how it's going to be for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrodder636 View Post
    I wear doubles when I shoot rifles. Doubles as in foamies with electronic muff over the top. I can get a good cheek weld with a bit of a loss of seal on my right ear. The left ear remains completely sealed and there is still a good portion of the right ear covered by the muff with the foamie underneath. I hope that made sense.
    Same here, haven't found earmuffs that fit right when trying to get a cheekweld on any rifle. I consider them more of a pistol use earpro. So when shooting rifle, I use plugs underneath electronic muffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrodder636 View Post
    OP,
    Can you post a pic of your setup so we can see what you are working with? Sounds like it may be technique or setup issue.
    BCM 16" ELW Barrel with 13" KMR, Primary Arms 4-14X FFP mil/mil scope mounted in a American Defense Recon with STR stock, etc.

    Current Arms:
    - BCM 16" ELW w/13" KMR on Spikes Lower AR-15
    - Arsenal Bulgarian SAM7R AK47
    - CZ Shadow 2
    - CZ P-10c FDE
    - CZ EVO 3 Carbine FDE
    - Smith & Wesson M&P9 Shield
    - Sig P365
    - Walther Arms PPQ M2 9mm
    - Ruger Precision Rifle .308
    - Beretta A300 Outlander 12G Shotgun
    - And other stuff I can't talk about

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    Quote Originally Posted by falconman515 View Post
    BCM 16" ELW Barrel with 13" KMR, Primary Arms 4-14X FFP mil/mil scope mounted in a American Defense Recon with STR stock, etc.

    Can you post a pic of yourself aiming it?

    Edit: Peltor tac100 and m4 stock.
    Last edited by MegademiC; 03-22-15 at 19:20.

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    Have you tried a narrower stock? No need to buy, just borrow, to see if that would solve your problem.

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    Thanks for so many great replies guys

    Keep in mind as well I haveno issue aiming standing up like Megademics picture shows above ...

    My issue is sitting and shooting from the bench at the range (or table etc.)

    I used to have the CTR stock on before the STR so it still is the same as theearmuff hits really the top most part of the stock regardless of stock width.

    I think I may need to try and readjust somehow

    It seems many guys wear plugs for the exact reason I'm talking about so it's nice to know its not just me ... But others have no issue, so hopefully there is a way around this.
    Current Arms:
    - BCM 16" ELW w/13" KMR on Spikes Lower AR-15
    - Arsenal Bulgarian SAM7R AK47
    - CZ Shadow 2
    - CZ P-10c FDE
    - CZ EVO 3 Carbine FDE
    - Smith & Wesson M&P9 Shield
    - Sig P365
    - Walther Arms PPQ M2 9mm
    - Ruger Precision Rifle .308
    - Beretta A300 Outlander 12G Shotgun
    - And other stuff I can't talk about

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