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Thread: Does the second round in your Pmags tilt/move/cross and prevent a tactical reload?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40Colorado View Post
    Have you tried the specific maneuver we're talking about, i.e., trying to seat a fully-loaded 30 round Pmag on a closed bolt, to simulate a tactical reload?

    I ditched all my Pmags (thank you Equip Exchange lol), and have switched over to mostly C-products stainless with anti-tilt black followers. Flawless. Ran a carbine with them, no issues at all.

    Makes me wonder if the Army and Marines know something we don't regarding the Pmag ban.
    1. The Army did not ban PMags. They issued a memorandum stating that only magazines on the "approved" list be used, then only put the USGI magazine on the list (tan and green follower versions). After an initial uproar by those deployed, the Army issued a clarification less than a week later saying the memorandum was "optional".

    2. With the USMC, the introduction of the IAR (with it's extended 416 magazine well) did not allow the original PMag to fully seat. This caused an incompatibility with the existing PMags (all pre M3) already fielded by USMC units. The M3 has since solved this issue as well as HK who have move to a conventional mag well design with the latest 416 varient.

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    I can't say that the problem that I have experienced is exactly what your describing but, I have had problems seating 30rd pmags when fully loaded. I just load all my mags even mil spec mags to 28 rounds and have not had any problems since. Personally I don't think 2 more rounds will matter that much but if it makes seating my mags easier it's worth it to me.

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    Experienced this twice with a M2 mag but never with M3..

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40Colorado View Post
    Have you tried the specific maneuver we're talking about, i.e., trying to seat a fully-loaded 30 round Pmag on a closed bolt, to simulate a tactical reload?

    I ditched all my Pmags (thank you Equip Exchange lol), and have switched over to mostly C-products stainless with anti-tilt black followers. Flawless. Ran a carbine with them, no issues at all.

    Makes me wonder if the Army and Marines know something we don't regarding the Pmag ban.
    1. The Army did not ban PMags. They issued a memorandum stating that only magazines on the "approved" list be used, then only put the USGI magazine on the list (tan and green follower versions). After an initial uproar by those deployed, the Army issued a clarification less than a week later saying the memorandum was "optional".

    2. With the USMC, the introduction of the IAR (with it's extended 416 magazine well) did not allow the original PMag to fully seat. This caused an incompatibility with the existing PMags (all pre M3) already fielded by USMC units. The M3 has since solved this issue as well as HK who have move to a conventional mag well design with the latest 416 version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuse View Post
    Yup. I've never used D&H mags, but I've used lots of Centers, lots of Okay/NHMTG/Colts. They all run fine and hold up quite well for me.

    It seems like Pmags always get compared to 'what's left on the last day of the gunshow surplus mags' that are usually made up of mis-matched parts that were wore out decades ago.

    Compare 'em to new Centers, Okays, or Brownells and the performance gap closes quite a bit. Nothing wrong with Pmags if they work for you though.
    Here are some simple tests with brand new mil issue USGI contract mags vs PMag M3s, complete with high speed video and factory HK 416 full auto tests. (Link)


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    Great video. Thanks for sharing.

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    Well, I have to say that any company that takes This much time to test their mags and reply extensively in this forum has earned my confidence. I bought another two gen m3 last night and neither had any issues.

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