What's the big deal with this whole Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration law?

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Look up the word "consent." It's VERY important to distinguish between what is and is not a crime.

So unless it is illegal, if you are in a service industry, you have to be fair game?

It used to be that we tried to legislate morality, we are now getting to the point that we are legislating immorality.

[Koshinn]

So unless it is illegal, if you are in a service industry, you have to be fair game?

It used to be that we tried to legislate morality, we are now getting to the point that we are legislating immorality.

While I'm usually very libertarian, I do think that it is very unamerican, unchristian, and should be illegal to discriminate based on how someone is born... Within reason. If you need a firefighter and the applicant was born without legs and arms and eyes, that's a good reason to say no. But refusing service because you're not the same race, not the same gender, not the same age, or not the same sexual orientation should be illegal.

For example, the cake thing in Colorado. They should be allowed to not make a particular cake design. But they shouldn't be allowed to deny the same service to a gay person that a straight couple would receive. So a giant penis cake would be able to be properly declined, but two names on a cake should not be declined. It's just a cake, it's not like they're asking you to participate in their bedroom.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Their are gay bakers all over wondering why none of their brothers will help them out.

It's always bakers and photographers- never florists getting sued.

I've shot some weddings. If it's two dudes there are no bridesmaids, that is a big disincentive for taking that job.

Actually, the 'penis cake' place makes the best birthday cakes here in Denver, you just want to leave the kids in the car so don't have to do any splaining about the bachlorette party cakes- and check the box before leaving.

[Honu]

PEOPLE ARE NOT BORN GAY !!!!!

its only a theory some have and like global warming the left runs with it as fact !!!!!

it is a choice ! just like some who choose and work on staying with one partner only and some want to run around with who ever and are fine with it
these are choices we make as a human

agree its just a cake so the gay people should just move on and then tell others to vote with there wallet and let the market decide who stays in business

Jesus could love and forgive a prostitute ! it does not mean he has to dive into her culture and help her continue working and provide clients for her and work with her etc... there is a HUGE difference

shot weddings for the last 15 years about 25-50 a year depending on what year
just tired of the wedding industry and only going to do small nice ones and do more portrait work
modern brides are a freaking nightmare

While I'm usually very libertarian, I do think that it is very unamerican, unchristian, and should be illegal to discriminate based on how someone is born... Within reason. If you need a firefighter and the applicant was born without legs and arms and eyes, that's a good reason to say no. But refusing service because you're not the same race, not the same gender, not the same age, or not the same sexual orientation should be illegal.

For example, the cake thing in Colorado. They should be allowed to not make a particular cake design. But they shouldn't be allowed to deny the same service to a gay person that a straight couple would receive. So a giant penis cake would be able to be properly declined, but two names on a cake should not be declined. It's just a cake, it's not like they're asking you to participate in their bedroom.

[AKDoug]

Their are gay bakers all over wondering why none of their brothers will help them out.

It's always bakers and photographers- never florists getting sued.

I've shot some weddings. If it's two dudes there are no bridesmaids, that is a big disincentive for taking that job.

Actually, the 'penis cake' place makes the best birthday cakes here in Denver, you just want to leave the kids in the car so don't have to do any splaining about the bachlorette party cakes- and check the box before leaving.

Actually a florist was sued and she lost.. for now. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...ls-whats-next/

[Moose-Knuckle]

NCAA is threatening to pullout of hosting the tournament there in the future and re-locating HQ.

CT Governor, Washington Governor, Seattle Mayor have issued state-funded travel bans to Indiana.
CEO's are threatening to close up shop and leave.

People WANT this to be an issue because that tiny 1% of society demands it.

Enter the "Gay Agenda" via social engineering. The "Gay Agenda" is not even being pushed by the LGBT community, 99% of those folks just want to live their lives and be left well alone. They don't want to be a poster child or a victim of society paraded around on the evening news. The progressive left uses them as useful idiots to implement their plans, acquire votes, all leading to the destruction of the moral fabric of our Republic which inevitably brings a downfall of society so they can reimagine one to their betters liking.

[DreadPirateMoyer]

PEOPLE ARE NOT BORN GAY !!!!!

its only a theory some have and like global warming the left runs with it as fact !!!!!

Your well-supported and scientifically-cited argument has thoroughly convinced me. Man, I don't know how I ever believed otherwise. I'll make sure to tell this to my gay friends who have been obviously gay since pre-school, even before they could comprehend what that meant, and that all they have to do is choose to be attracted to the opposite sex like we've chosen, because why would anyone choose a lifestyle that leads to a vastly more difficult life due to societal norms and prejudices?

Phew. Glad you opened my eyes. I had no clue who I was attracted to was a choice. You're a savior!

[jpmuscle]

^ chuckle chuckle

[Eurodriver]

No, tranny's are next- get in line....

[Honu]

how about you post up that scientific proof because you would be the first person and be truly ground breaking

and until they/you can prove it then its a THEORY !!!!! just like global warming

I did not site any docs or support it ? I don't have to its out there all over the internet and many medical journals and edu research and other places that they cant find anything but are trying

Your well-supported and scientifically-cited argument has thoroughly convinced me. Man, I don't know how I ever believed otherwise. I'll make sure to tell this to my gay friends who have been obviously gay since pre-school, even before they could comprehend what that meant, and that all they have to do is choose to be attracted to the opposite sex like we've chosen, because why would anyone choose a lifestyle that leads to a vastly more difficult life due to societal norms and prejudices?

Phew. Glad you opened my eyes. I had no clue who I was attracted to was a choice. You're a savior!