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    Quote Originally Posted by cbx View Post
    I'll go first and say F that guy.
    To add to this he needs to choke on a bologna sandwich.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OH58D View Post
    I doubt Chris Christie will get the Republican nomination. I am more worried about Jeb Bush. They say he's a Moderate Republican, which basically means RINO. He's disqualified in my book already because of Common (Commie) Core, but I know little of his stand on Gun Rights. I'm still examining Scott Walker and Rand Paul, but like what I hear out of Ted Cruz. Any of these would destroy grandma Hillary in a debate. She can follow a script pretty well, gets shrill and ugly when she gets off message.
    Jeb is just another NWO NEOCON like his grandfather, father, and older brother. We DO NOT need another one of them in the White House. Their dynasty needs to go into obscurity.
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    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon 10/30/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by OH58D View Post
    I doubt Chris Christie will get the Republican nomination. I am more worried about Jeb Bush. They say he's a Moderate Republican, which basically means RINO. He's disqualified in my book already because of Common (Commie) Core, but I know little of his stand on Gun Rights. I'm still examining Scott Walker and Rand Paul, but like what I hear out of Ted Cruz. Any of these would destroy grandma Hillary in a debate. She can follow a script pretty well, gets shrill and ugly when she gets off message.
    I personally know something about Jeb Bush and guns.

    Back in 1999 local POS rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz introduced a Broward County Assault Weapon Ban.

    http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/199...serman-schultz

    Working with co POS then Sheriff Ken Jenne (later sentenced for corruption charges) they introduced a bill that was essentially a copy of the CA assault weapon ban for our county in FL. But without the grandfather clause, they simply become illegal and you are a felon if you keep them.

    Despite being SLAMMED by gun owners at the hearing (I was there personally) it actually passed with only a single vote against it. The state rep who voted against it would become the victim of "redistricting" and would not be re elected.

    So the ****ING thing passed. Debbie Wasserman Schultz personally took it to then Governor Jeb Bush for a signature and he told her something along the lines of "stop wasting my time with this crap."

    If that had been Governor Lawton Chiles we'd have been screwed bad. If that had been Governor Buddy Mackay we'd have been screwed bad. If that had been Governor Charlie Christ we'd have been screwed bad. The only reason that damn thing didn't get signed into law is because Jeb Bush happened to be the only "real" Republican governor FL has had in the last 100 years. We currently have Rick Scott and he's also good on guns but has a few other issues.

    http://www.nga.org/cms/home/governor...e_florida.html

    Now perhaps it would have been challenged by the FL Supreme Court but I wouldn't have wanted to bet all my marbles on that.

    That is when I became a Jeb Bush FAN, I actually wish we could have traded him for George (43) instead. I wouldn't want him to run this time simply because all the "anyone but Bush" retards would elect Hillary.

    And yes, he supported Common CORE, yes it's bullshit but it's what the majority of retards in Florida wanted and they got it. I don't think he supported it out of personal views but as a career decision. He's also crappy on illegal immigration but so was Reagan.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    "We need to find a balance on the gay rights issue"

    said no-one, ever without being savaged by the left. But we just take it.

    Why is self-defense and a check to govt tyranny the only civil right that has to be limited?

    All these corps and municipalities that went after travel bans for Indiana, how about we we go after NY and CA for not respecting people's right to self defense?
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    I agree. I assume by balance he means repealing the excessive gun laws in place and returning some weight to the 2nd Amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    Jeb is just another NWO NEOCON like his grandfather, father, and older brother. We DO NOT need another one of them in the White House. Their dynasty needs to go into obscurity.
    Much of America has Clinton and a Bush fatigue.

    To be clear, that was CLINTON and BUSH fatigue. Not some other combination of those two words.

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    Jeb Bush may not be everyone's cup of tea, but he is gun friendly. (And not in that Harry Reid sort of way)

    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I personally know something about Jeb Bush and guns.

    Back in 1999 local POS rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz introduced a Broward County Assault Weapon Ban.

    http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/199...serman-schultz

    Working with co POS then Sheriff Ken Jenne (later sentenced for corruption charges) they introduced a bill that was essentially a copy of the CA assault weapon ban for our county in FL. But without the grandfather clause, they simply become illegal and you are a felon if you keep them.

    Despite being SLAMMED by gun owners at the hearing (I was there personally) it actually passed with only a single vote against it. The state rep who voted against it would become the victim of "redistricting" and would not be re elected.

    So the ****ING thing passed. Debbie Wasserman Schultz personally took it to then Governor Jeb Bush for a signature and he told her something along the lines of "stop wasting my time with this crap."

    If that had been Governor Lawton Chiles we'd have been screwed bad. If that had been Governor Buddy Mackay we'd have been screwed bad. If that had been Governor Charlie Christ we'd have been screwed bad. The only reason that damn thing didn't get signed into law is because Jeb Bush happened to be the only "real" Republican governor FL has had in the last 100 years. We currently have Rick Scott and he's also good on guns but has a few other issues.

    http://www.nga.org/cms/home/governor...e_florida.html

    Now perhaps it would have been challenged by the FL Supreme Court but I wouldn't have wanted to bet all my marbles on that.

    That is when I became a Jeb Bush FAN, I actually wish we could have traded him for George (43) instead. I wouldn't want him to run this time simply because all the "anyone but Bush" retards would elect Hillary.

    And yes, he supported Common CORE, yes it's bullshit but it's what the majority of retards in Florida wanted and they got it. I don't think he supported it out of personal views but as a career decision. He's also crappy on illegal immigration but so was Reagan.
    Why do the loudest do the least?

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    As a New Jersey resident I will gladly add to the tally and say F@&k You Chris.

    Sure he has not made things worse for fun owners but that is only because it's hard to subtract from zero. He sure as hell did not make it any better, and for that, I would never vote for him in a national elevation.

    When he was AG he ran on an Anti-Gun platform. What more needs to be said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingHunter View Post
    “We’ve got to make sure we have public safety, but on the other hand we have to protect people’s rights both as sportsmen and hunters and for self protection too, find the right balance,” Christie told a group of New Hampshire voters at Chez Vachon in Manchester, according to New Jersey newspaper The Record.
    I just wish I could get in these people's faces and say:
    "Hunting is not the issue. Hunting is not the issue. Hunting is not the issue. Hunting is not the issue. Hunting is not the issue. Hunting. Is. Not. The. Issue. HUNTING IS NOT THE ISSUE! HUNTING IS NOT THE GODDAMN ISSUE!!! DO I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION NOW??? Do we have it clear? Am I going to hear the words 'hunting' or 'sporting' out of your fat mouth again? Now, let me ask you, is hunting the issue???"
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    But they rarely to never propose the other Amendments need "balancing". If one was to propose for example a tracking device put on all computers that would send an instant alert to law enforcement the second someone searched site for bomb making instructions to "balance" the safety of the nation vs individual rights, people would freak out.

    And the usual problem, who gets to decide what "balance" is? You have to take the Const. at face value and work from there, not the reverse.

    People today forget a key (the key) aspect of the US: It's not, nor has it ever, been intended as the safest country on earth, but the freest. And we all know what the man said about those willing to give up Liberty for safety...
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