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    Positive Safety Click

    The only thing I don't like about my Colt AR15A4 is the Safety. It is wobbly. On the other hand my Sig M400 has a very tactile, firm and positive click when switching between safe and fire.

    Is there anyway I can get the safety on my colt to have a positive firm click like my SIG???

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    I have the same issue. The safety on my BCM lower is perfect. Very positive click, but then travels very smoothly and easily between fire and safe. My other lower's safety is very mushy. It would be a very inexpensive fix to install the same safety used in my BCM, but unfortunately I don't know who makes it. BCM sells a few different safeties but I don't know which one they use on their lowers. Or used about 4 years ago.

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    First thing I would try is a different safety spring and see if that solves the issue. If that doesn't work, cutting a few coils off of the extra spring and dropping it into the spring hole in the grip to add extra pressure/tension, should make the click more positive.
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    My factory DD has a perfect crisp, almost sexy click to it. The aero lower i built has more of a rasp-rough feel, but it does go click.
    Last edited by SilverBullet432; 04-20-15 at 15:32.

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    That clickiness is a function of the detent riding along the track in the safety to find it's recess, pushed up by the spring.

    If it never was clicky, I'd say the safety recess is oversized/ sloppy.

    Detents are pretty standard, and if the spring was worn out it would be a degenerative problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kain View Post
    If that doesn't work, cutting a few coils off of the extra spring and dropping it into the spring hole in the grip to add extra pressure/tension, should make the click more positive.
    Are you ****ing serious?

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    I think it is more or less your luck of the draw. I have had factory ones that clicked solidly and B.A.D. ones that felt like the plunger was made of wood and the other way around. The ones that clicked were harder to move than the mushy ones. I have a new AXTS Talon I have been meaning to do a review of. The detent snaps into place but it is not difficult to move out of it. I am almost willing to bet all of them are not this good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KalashniKEV View Post
    Are you ****ing serious?
    Yes, actually. And it has been something that others have offered as a possibility. In my experience the lack of clickiness you get with some usually falls to the grip and how deep the hole in it is drilled for the spring, unless the spring is short or worn, which can be the cause. Have taken grips off of lowers that had a positive click, and replaced them with other grips to get a less than positive click. Short of sending grips back to the company and hoping the next one doesn't cause the issue, adding something that adds length to the spring is the only thing I have found, if you wish to stay with that grip(Not send it back hoping the hole is not as deep, and swapping springs doesn't help.

    This of course if having a super positive click is something you must have. Unless the safety is causing issues one way or the other, I generally don't worry too much about it since I have rifles range from sharp and positive to being less stiff, but still locking into place. If it is loose to the point of being a concern then I will start screwing with it.
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    A stiffer spring will do that, although for some hand sizes, this makes left-hand operation without an ambidextrous safety catch something that has to be specifically drilled. I've inadvertently made stiffer ones being lazy about installing pistol grips, and I can understand why a more positive feel might be preferred if you're running a lot of dry fire stuff - but running drills with ammo on a range makes it hard to remember how important this is as long as the safety is staying securely in place.
    It's certainly possible to either stretch the spring or put a spacer on that spring inside the grip, but as long as the safety keeps itself in the right spot, I wouldn't worry about i at all.
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    On one of my DD rifles I had a mushy selector and when I upgraded my grip and my safety selector to a Battle Arms Development ambi selector the mush went away. I also changed out the detent and spring. What I noticed was the OEM DD spring was smaller and not as stiff as the spring BAD sent with their selectors. The "mushy" selector is an easy fix and I too prefer a positive audible click.


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    I wouldn't recommend cutting any springs. I have fixed this issue by changing detents. Try a KNS detent. It's what Battlearms Development uses in their AmbiSafties. If that doesn't help replace the selector.
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