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    Drones kill U.S. citizens in Pakistan

    U.S. drones kill U.S citizens in Pakistan, of whom two were alleged AQAP terrorists.

    Three Americans, one of whom was a hostage held by al-Qaida, were killed during counterterrorism operations this year near the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan, the White House said Thursday morning.
    Officials also said Thursday that Ahmed Farouq, an American who they call an al-Qaida leader, was killed in the same operation that claimed Weinstein's and Lo Porto's lives. Adam Gadahn, another American member of al-Qaida, was also killed in January, in what the White House said was "likely" a separate military operation in the same region. Officials said that neither members were "specifically targeted," and intelligence personnel did not know they were present at the sites of the strikes.
    http://www.nationaljournal.com/white...tions-20150423

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    Haven't they been looking for Gadahan since 2001?

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    Not a problem.
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    killing 2 hostages (1 american, 1 italian) isnt a big deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForTehNguyen View Post
    killing 2 hostages (1 american, 1 italian) isnt a big deal?
    You act like it was intentional.

    When you travel to countries where you have a 85% of being kidnapped because you feel it is your duty to save people who dislike/hate you, well then.. I'm sure you can figure where I'm going with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForTehNguyen View Post
    killing 2 hostages (1 american, 1 italian) isnt a big deal?
    Would you prefer we waited until their heads were sawed off? Sucks when ANYONE innocent dies, best way to prevent that is to kill bad guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Not a problem.
    Sorry for the hostage (really mean it), but I don't GAF abut the others, especially Gadahn.
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    Coming soon to a neighborhood near you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fjallhrafn View Post
    Coming soon to a neighborhood near you!
    That's a bigtime stretch and you know it.

    What are we supposed to do, serve them with a f*****g warrant?
    Last edited by ABNAK; 04-23-15 at 22:12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    That's a bigtime stretch and you know it.
    The only stretch is going from bombing Americans abroad to bombing Americans at home.

    Remember: If you like guns, vote Republican, are white, male, served in the military, a Christian... you're probably a terrorist. And this strike was carried out with so little intelligence that it took them three months to figure out that there were three Americans and an Italian killed in the attack: So "we probably won't kill any hostages" and "we probably will kill terrorists" is sufficient evidence for the President to authorize a drone strike. Counter-terrorism by Special Agent Johnson and Agent Johnson (no relation) of the FBI, "Figure we take out the terrorists. Lose twenty, twenty-five percent of the hostages, tops." "I can live with that."

    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    What are we supposed to do, serve them with a f*****g warrant?
    Well, given the choice between that and allowing a politician like Obama to make the choice... which would you rather have?

    I don't think it would be too crazy to suggest that any American targeted for being killed should be publicly tried in absentia before they can be killed at the command of the President of the United States. I mean, it still reeks of the kangaroo courts of the Stasi and KGB, but at least it would be an open process that allows the American people to know what the f___ their government is wanting to do to a fellow citizen, rather than letting the government decide in the shadows who they get to kill and not kill. Might as well leave the killing to NSA-derived metadata algorithms and flying autonomous aircraft carriers, if that's your preference.
    Last edited by MountainRaven; 04-23-15 at 22:51.
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