The world we live in...Ukrainians Crucify a dude

[Alex V]

Shche Ne Vmerla Ukraina

Ukrainians killing Russians or Russian sympathisers? I honestly don't know if I'm terribly apposed. The methods may be a bit over the top. But I can't disagree with the goal.

[SomeOtherGuy]

The religion of peace strikes again...

Not sure what your point is - if the video is accurate (a big if) then this outrage was perpetrated by Ukrainian neo-nazis who are somewhat aligned with the side that the US govt is supporting. They are not Muslims to my knowledge. Not sure they are any religion, at least in a meaningful sense.

[jc000]

Not sure what your point is - if the video is accurate (a big if) then this outrage was perpetrated by Ukrainian neo-nazis who are somewhat aligned with the side that the US govt is supporting. They are not Muslims to my knowledge. Not sure they are any religion, at least in a meaningful sense.

No shit. Where does "muslim" fit in?

[jc000]

Shche Ne Vmerla Ukraina

Ukrainians killing Russians or Russian sympathisers? I honestly don't know if I'm terribly apposed. The methods may be a bit over the top. But I can't disagree with the goal.

No offense but you are severely misguided. And ****ing sick.

[Outlander Systems]

Not sure what your point is - if the video is accurate (a big if) then this outrage was perpetrated by Ukrainian neo-nazis who are somewhat aligned with the side that the US govt is supporting. They are not Muslims to my knowledge. Not sure they are any religion, at least in a meaningful sense.

These dudes are shamelessly, white supremacist, neo-nazis.

[7.62NATO]

Savage places have savage people.

The developing world has always been bathed in blood, and this too, was once one of the world's great dark places.
(plenty of evidence of that nearby to where I write this in Southern Arizona)

Religion is just a tool to move the hands of weak minded people.

History provides plenty of irrefutable proof of immense blood shed. However, some people, due to cultural or religious beliefs, refuse to move beyond the dark ages, and for that, they should be held accountable.

[BoringGuy45]

History provides plenty of irrefutable proof of immense blood shed. However, some people, due to cultural or religious beliefs, refuse to move beyond the dark ages, and for that, they should be held accountable.

That is the one positive thing about the time in which we live. At least these days this type of behavior is considered appalling to much of the civilized world. In the past, this was the civilized world's M.O.! Torture and genocide wasn't considered wrong, it just sucked for the person on the receiving end. But the victims probably didn't have any huge problem intrinsically with it, as they would do the same thing if the roles were reversed. The general rule of the ancient world was treat your enemy as inhumanly cruel as you could so that he would be afraid to face you. The only civilization that had any concept of human rights were the Ancient Persians, and even they were brutal by today's standards.

The scary thing is that, while it's good that the civilized world today is appalled by stuff like this, we've also lost the balls to contain and/or destroy the people who do it. Now, I'm not saying we keep sending troops into every hellhole in the world. Typically, all we do replace one genocidal asshole with another. But when they make the mistake of poking us, we need to be willing to turn them to dust. With people like this, you don't have to be savage and brutish, but you do have to be merciless.

[Campbell]

That is the one positive thing about the time in which we live. At least these days this type of behavior is considered appalling to much of the civilized world. In the past, this was the civilized world's M.O.! Torture and genocide wasn't considered wrong, it just sucked for the person on the receiving end. But the victims probably didn't have any huge problem intrinsically with it, as they would do the same thing if the roles were reversed. The general rule of the ancient world was treat your enemy as inhumanly cruel as you could so that he would be afraid to face you. The only civilization that had any concept of human rights were the Ancient Persians, and even they were brutal by today's standards.

The scary thing is that, while it's good that the civilized world today is appalled by stuff like this, we've also lost the balls to contain and/or destroy the people who do it. Now, I'm not saying we keep sending troops into every hellhole in the world. Typically, all we do replace one genocidal asshole with another. But when they make the mistake of poking us, we need to be willing to turn them to dust. With people like this, you don't have to be savage and brutish, but you do have to be merciless.

^^^Yes and yes.

[KalashniKEV]

Maskirovka, anyone?

I thought about it, but I wouldn't put it past either side.

No shit. Where does "muslim" fit in?

It rarely does.

Right now the world's premier conflict involves Muslims fighting Muslims... because that happens to be the predominant religion in the Middle East.

I probably should have used some kind of emoticon, but "The Religion of Peace strikes again!" is just idiotic blather that usually accompanies some atrocity in the Middle East. It's a joke... like, "Thanks, OBAMA!" when your favorite restaurant is closed or your shoe becomes untied.

When the Narcos drop off a basket full of heads in Old Mexico, typically that phrase is not heard.

All of the world's major religions are peaceful, but they are also powerful because people can be convinced of spiritual righteousness in pursuing their goals (or usually the goals of some other).

These dudes are shamelessly, white supremacist, neo-nazis.

Correct.

The Banderist Kiev junta is not our friend.

...due to cultural or religious beliefs, refuse to move beyond the dark ages, and for that, they should be held accountable.

Part of our foreign policy has been to keep that region of the world broke, struggling, and desperate. Our past actions have promoted this.

When terror strikes, too often Americans don't understand the why... or they pretend not to.

Until we adopt a foreign policy that lifts up the region, or leaves it alone to develop as it would, we'll always be saying, "Gosh, where did this come from?" as the dust settles.

The scary thing is that, while it's good that the civilized world today is appalled by stuff like this, we've also lost the balls to contain and/or destroy the people who do it.

We've not lost the balls to intervene, we've gained the ability to share awareness and raise consciousness in real time.

Haile Selassie went to the League of Nations in 1936 and delivered one of the most powerful speeches of the 20th century pleading for help against the fascist invader- who was using chemical weapons against non-combatants and commuting various atrocities against his people. He got nothing.

Today, we would watch the Italian military carry out their crimes on youtube and someone would start a petition on change.org.

(...and we'd still do nothing because it's Africa. Just like Sudan.)

[KalashniKEV]

Maskirovka, anyone?

I thought about it, but I wouldn't put it past either side.

No shit. Where does "muslim" fit in?

It rarely does.

Right now the world's premier conflict involves Muslims fighting Muslims... because that happens to be the predominant religion in the Middle East.

I probably should have used some kind of emoticon, but "The Religion of Peace strikes again!" is just idiotic blather that usually accompanies some atrocity. It's a joke... like, "Thanks, OBAMA!" when your favorite restaurant is closed or your shoe becomes untied.

When the Narcos drop off a basket full of heads in Old Mexico, typically that phrase is not heard.

All of the world's major religions are peaceful, but they are also powerful because people can be convinced of spiritual righteousness in pursuing their goals (or usually the goals of some other).

These dudes are shamelessly, white supremacist, neo-nazis.

Correct.

The Banderist Kiev junta is not our friend.

...due to cultural or religious beliefs, refuse to move beyond the dark ages, and for that, they should be held accountable.

Part of our foreign policy has been to keep that region of the world broke, struggling, and desperate. Our past actions have promoted this.

When terror strikes, too often Americans don't understand the why... or they pretend not to.

Until we adopt a foreign policy that lifts up the region, or leaves it alone to develop as it would, we'll always be saying, "Gosh, where did this come from?" as the dust settles.

The scary thing is that, while it's good that the civilized world today is appalled by stuff like this, we've also lost the balls to contain and/or destroy the people who do it.

We've not lost the balls to intervene, we've gained the ability to share awareness and raise consciousness in real time.

Haile Selassie went to the League of Nations in 1936 and delivered one of the most powerful speeches of the 20th century pleading for help against the fascist invader- who was using chemical weapons against non-combatants and commuting various atrocities against his people. He got nothing.

Today, we would watch the Italian military carry out their crimes on youtube and someone would start a petition on change.org.

(...and we'd still do nothing because it's Africa. Just like Sudan.)