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    Quote Originally Posted by JPB View Post
    The military's requirements are not mine. I don't carry a Beretta either.
    Good point. Most people don't have as strict requirements as USSOCOM and, therefore, probably could get by with spending less money. Also, I wasn't aware the same units that issue the SF SOCOMs carry Beretta's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ming_the_Merciless View Post

    Though I haven’t stayed current on the latest and greatest offerings there are on the market, I don’t for one second regret my decision. The Surefire 7.62-RC has served me well on many hosts, primarily on an OBR, with occasional use on my Mk18 clone both in 5.56 and 300 BLK, and even on 22 LR conversions. I also plan on eventually getting a 300 Win Mag later down the round, so spread that cost across 5 different platforms, and it comes out to $360. Although getting a one-size-fits all suppressor doesn't offer optimal sound suppression or size dimensions/weight, it does offers significant cost savings compare to getting a dedicated can for each rifle caliber.
    .22 through a non user serviceable can is a no no. Can may fill up with molten lead from non jacketed rounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwknutson17 View Post
    I would say the Surefire RCs and Minis are my favorite cans out of the Surefires, AAC, SiCo and KACs I own. By far my favorite mounting system. I would recommend them over others for many reasons. POI, Blowback, Mounting systems, muzzle devices, etc etc etc. If your looking for a 5.56 can that's super quiet.. you picked the wrong caliber.
    Yep I'm very happy with my RC & Mini cans, I'm actually pleasantly suprised how quiet they are, I was expecting them to be louder based on the interwebz opinion of them.

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    Has anyone gotten their hands on a Griffin 30SD yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLarge View Post
    Good point. Most people don't have as strict requirements as USSOCOM and, therefore, probably could get by with spending less money. Also, I wasn't aware the same units that issue the SF SOCOMs carry Beretta's...
    I don't believe that I implied that they did, but since you bring it up, I wouldn't shocked to find those cans commingling with Berettas amongst various USSOCOM components. Not sure how widely those particular cans are distributed, but if it is USSOCOM wide, there are some Beretta M9 users in that mix.

    Living DoD acquisition on a daily basis, I can assure you that performance in any particular area can quickly be trumped by other competing requirements. Many times a better performing product exists, but requires a CONOP/CONEMP that is incompatible with the services particular needs.

    In this particular example, I can plainly see why the services would have no desire for a "modular" suppressor in the inventory. Parts...

    Those of us that have experience with defense acquisition will just sorta smile when hearing "well 'unit X' uses it so it must be good..." Some cases it's true, but in other cases the procurement was driven by an odd ball or less sexy requirement that 99% of folks never hear about. And the movie "Pentagon Wars" isn't a comedy, it's a documentary.

    All of that said, USSOCOM conducts acquisitions in a manner that makes the rest of the DoD 5000.02 community blush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    You mean besides Freedom Group owning AAC? 51t is an inferior attachment method, many people with documents baffle strikes due to that mount, not sure about their SR7 but so many outstanding options from better companies, why bother?
    While I can't say I'm particularly pleased with AAC's 51T system, I wouldn't go as far to call it an "inferior" mounting system. The whole backlash/wobble thing has been beaten up and down forums across the internet.

    As an owner of a 556 SD & SDN6, would I buy one again? More than likely, no. But the reasons for that are because my needs are different now vs. 18 months ago when I acquired my first can.

    With the SDN6 being my first can the ability to let everyone of my rifles share in the joy of being suppressed was at the forefront. Now that I've condensed down to 3 rifles. I've adapted a dedicated can per rifle mantra.

    Many lighter weight, and cheaper options out there with a direct thread can. I picked up a Gemtech Trek recently for $295. While it's no front runner, compared to my 556SD I've saved 2 ounces + an additional 4 ounces by losing a mount, and it's 1" shorter.

    In this case the Trek was $295 +200 Stamp + $25 Transfer vs. 556SD $500 +200 Stamp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrotx1 View Post
    .22 through a non user serviceable can is a no no. Can may fill up with molten lead from non jacketed rounds.
    Yes, shooting rimfire through a sealed can is generally considered bad juju.

    Especially with aluminum components, but since the bafflestack, welds, and outer tube is all Inconel, it's solvent safe with the dip (peracetic acid), or CLR. To get rid of the funk, I cork up the muzzle end, filling it up, and let it soak in an upright used pickle jar. I seldom do shoot 22 LR through the 762RC, but in a pinch when I run a conversion kit, I don't hesitate to throw some rounds down range, it's remarkably Hollywood Quiet due to the comparatively massive internal volume. I also run only copper plated/jacketed noses to mitigate the possible lead build up too.

    It would be nice if Surefire came out with a QD threaded adapter, since the Warden isn't consider a suppressor part, modify the front part with standard male threads, allowing folks to run the 22 Ryder off the SF brake or flash hider would be an excellent accessory to have. Just a pain to swap out muzzle devices so I can thread on my dedicated 22 can on a rifle that has a SF brake installed.

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    Just be aware of the hazards of lead (II) acetate. It's a neurotoxin that will absorb through your skin.
    Last edited by foxtrotx1; 05-07-15 at 16:51.

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