Top U.S. Army Marksman Explains Why Gun Nuts Shoot Better

[7.62NATO]

Interesting perspective from a 1st Special Forces Group soldier. A worthwhile read.

Master Sgt. Scott Satterlee is really good at shooting things. He’s a member of the U.S. Army’s elite 1st Special Forces Group based at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state. He’s also a nationally ranked competitive precision rifle shooter—and one of the military’s best marksmen.

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/top...r-469f8dfd917f

[markm]

That's interesting.

[Wake27]

He's not from Delta, but was about the next closest thing. Does a lot of precision rifle with his company, Precision Tactical Solutions. I posted a thread here with an AAR from a three day pistol/carbine course I took with him two years ago. I don't think he has done much of that lately but may start up again in a few months. Nothing against Mike Pannone, and I may be a little biased, but I enjoyed my class with him a lot more than the two day I did with CTT (still a good class though and definitely not an apples to apples comparison).


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[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I always chuckle when they talk about the 'weapons of war' whenever someone goes nuts with an AR.

223 being based on a varmint round
Red dots, adjustable stocks, and optimzed forends
77gr 5.56 ammo for long range shooting proving smaller rounds can be accurate
Tubb's work on the AR10 platform confirming that semi's could be automatic

These didn't happen in a vacuum, but civilian work advanced military arms.

Amateurs may not out perform the top professionals, but they can often best the run of the mill professionals that don't take the time that amateurs will. Photography is a another great 'shooting' example.

[SteyrAUG]

This isn't very surprising. Special operations dudes have to do a lot more than shoot. If civy shooters had to learn to HALO, scuba dive, run comms, climb mountains, speak a few languages, gather intelligence, hide among a foreign populace and train locals into effective fighters they'd probably not shoot quite as well either. There there are all those tricky ninja rolls and advanced knife throwing skills to master.

That said, if there is anything useful they can take from civilian shooting competition, I don't see how that hurts anything. Certainly we borrow plenty of stuff from them.

[bp7178]

All of the gun nuts I know...sadly that I work with...can't shoot for a shit. Its even worse when they can barely pass the PT test, but will talk endlessly about some f'd up Kel-Tec they just bought.

All of the best shooters I've known are all mechanical people. They intrinsically understand the function of mechanical things.

[MountainRaven]

I guess things have changed somewhat since Col. Wm. Church and Gen. George Wingate were displeased by the marksmanship of Union soldiers.

[Business_Casual]

I guess things have changed somewhat since Col. Wm. Church and Gen. George Wingate were displeased by the marksmanship of Union soldiers.

Ammo is expensive, so is training and ranges etc. basic cost benefit situation.

[SOWT]

Ammo is expensive, so is training and ranges etc. basic cost benefit situation.

Training doesn't always involve ammo or ranges.

How things work, and basic maintenance can be done in class.

I've learned more about shooting and weapons from this forum then I ever would have imagined.

Likewise, the one course I took showed me in 4 hours how to be a better shooter.

We run to the range, shoot, and run home without considering anything we just did. Fewer rounds and more time between trigger pulls can make you a better BASIC shooter.

But the trainers are not "gun people" for the most part, and they are saddled with all the extra crap Congress has loaded onto us.

[austinN4]

Top U.S. Army Marksman Explains Why Gun Nuts Shoot Better

While the article was a good read, I hated the title as the term "Gun Nuts" makes me bristle. It is very demeaning! There is nothing nuts about most of us.