AR Pistol As a Go To Rifle

[Emtothedee]

Just trying to open up a discussion. With the advancement in accessories for AR Pistols that allow them to be shot more comfortably, is it acceptable to consider one as your go to weapon, or should one always have a go to rifle that has a legitimate buttstock? It seems like AR pistols are not the novelty they used to be, especially with more and more of them appearing in carbine classes and such. It seems like they are starting to take the form of more serious, go to weapons. If setup properly, is it dumb to make one your go to? Let's assume tax stamps don't exist, because for many people who build pistols, they do not have that option.

[skimbleshanks]

I think after weighing what you need to do with your go to weapon and training adequately an ar pistol could very much make sense for some people. Higher capacity than a 1911(or most other pistols) and better maneuverability than a full length rifle, in a state that doesn't allow sbr's. Sure.

[Shiz]

My pistol is my go-to while prepare the lower for engraving/ATF forms etc. for my stamp. (the stamp we are pretending doesn't exist) It's short and has the silencer, RDS, and WML, so it is definitely the first one I would grab.

[vicious_cb]

Maybe you should redefine what you mean by pistol AR. Is just a foam wrapped buffer tube or a sig brace AR? 7.5" barrel or a more SBR type barrel?

[turnburglar]

I do think that with some of the newer arm braces they are more attractive.

My IDEAL go to gun would be a 11.5" barrel with a pined suppressor like Griffin Spartan 3. Then you could have a one stamp gun and it's considered a rifle. I'd like to have a suppressed rifle cartridge for home defense.

[joshrunkle35]

I do think that with some of the newer arm braces they are more attractive.

My IDEAL go to gun would be a 11.5" barrel with a pined suppressor like Griffin Spartan 3. Then you could have a one stamp gun and it's considered a rifle. I'd like to have a suppressed rifle cartridge for home defense.

I don't believe that the braces are very effective for home defense, when attached to the arm for stability. They limit your options for switching offhand, getting an offhand grip while sighting, etc.

People have been using them like a buttstock, which ATF had determined is illegal. If you shoulder your arm brace, it becomes an illegal SBR.

There is nothing that an AR pistol can do that an SBR can't do better. Chances are that if you're in a state that doesn't allow SBRs, you'd also be stuck with a neutered AR pistol as well. If this is the rarest of cases where you can have any AR pistol configuration, but is a state where you cannot own SBRs, then an AR pistol would be fine...I would look into using one of the cheek-weld techniques, which is not illegal, as it is not "shouldered".

[HitFactor]

I was under the impression that the terminal ballistics really suffers in short 223/556 barrels.

I'm still planning on fighting my way to a carbine if I find myself in that situation.

[Singlestack Wonder]

Braces are a joke as are pistol ar's. If the situation calls for a pistol, a pistol is a better tool than an ar pistol.

[Emtothedee]

What makes a brace a joke?

[Emtothedee]

I don't believe that the braces are very effective for home defense, when attached to the arm for stability. They limit your options for switching offhand, getting an offhand grip while sighting, etc.

People have been using them like a buttstock, which ATF had determined is illegal. If you shoulder your arm brace, it becomes an illegal SBR.

I don't believe that the ATF would be standing there surveying how you shoot your AR pistol in the midst of a home defense scenario, nor would I even care in that instance of that is what I chose to protect my household with. "I made sure there was a 1/146th of an inch gap between the brace and my shoulder sir." Although shooting an intruder with an ar pistol strapped to my arm like robocop is def quite the visual