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    Smells like fund raising to me without specifics. Remain calm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKGuns View Post
    Smells like fund raising to me without specifics. Remain calm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Better be a grandfather clause 'cause I ain't turning shit in or changing it. Yeah, it's an open internet forum but I don't give a damn.
    No such grandfather clause when a bunch of imported magazine fed shotguns were deemed "destructive devices." You either registered them with NFA or you had an unregistered NFA weapon and all the fun consequences that come with owning an unregistered NFA weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    Maybe we'll get a redefine and explanation of shoulder anatomy.
    Awesome, I can finally use my shoulder thing that goes up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle
    Maybe we'll get a redefine and explanation of shoulder anatomy.
    Awesome, I can finally use my shoulder thing that goes up.
    On point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    No such grandfather clause when a bunch of imported magazine fed shotguns were deemed "destructive devices." You either registered them with NFA or you had an unregistered NFA weapon and all the fun consequences that come with owning an unregistered NFA weapon.
    I'll bet there are several orders of magnitude greater AR pistol owners than ever owned the shotguns you mention. Would certainly muddy the waters a bit for a "wave of the pen" felon creation.
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    Correct me if I'm wrong. Would this newly dreamed up definition redefine a pistol by basically stating a pistol can only have a pistol grip and no "buffer tube" or anything else that extends from the rear of the receiver?

    Accordingly, the proposed definition of ‘‘pistol’’ in section 479.11 would read as follows:
    (a) A weapon originally designed, made, and intended to fire a projectile (bullet) from one or more barrels when held in one hand, and having—
    (1) A chamber(s) as an integral part(s) of, or permanently aligned with, the bore(s); and
    (2)A short fixed stock designed to be gripped by one hand and at an angle to and extending below the line of the bore(s).
    (b) The term shall not include any weapon disguised to look like an item other than a firearm, such as a pengun, wallet gun, belt buckle gun, pager gun or gadget device, or any gun that fires more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger
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    I read the federal register link. What is the consternation? It is well known that you can not make a pistol out of a rifle. The firearm receiver must be transferred as "other" without ever having been a "rifle." Disguised firearms seem to be the focus of the reclassification, where did AR pistol come into the discussion? Did I miss something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Dealers are ALREADY required to report gun thefts and provide trigger locks (safety devices) so those two issues right there are nothing but diversion and distraction. The only things NEW will be regarding high powered pistols.

    Probably looking at the M855 ban as a done deal since 75% of the NRA membership thinks "they won" a few months back. Possibly looking at some kind of reclass for AR, AK pistols and the like.
    We flood them with comments during the public comment period, run the clock out. I just hope that if we win in 2016, we push full tilt for expansion of gun rights, repeal all the bullshit and push for further expansion. This type of thing I believe will likely blow up in their communist faces.

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    Obama Administration Proposes Sweeping Gun Regulations

    http://www.ibtimes.com/obama-adminis...ations-1945483
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