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    Good on him. The entire thing needs a major restructuring from the ground up, and not via the scope of limited amendments. I have especially enjoyed the rantings of McCain and Graham in particular on the matter thus far
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    Good for Rand! He is really the only candidate I am half way excited about.

    The idea that they need to spy on us to keep us safe from terrorists is garbage.

    How so?

    Well, if you remember...many times our govt KNEW about certain terrorists long before they struck but they STILL did nothing to stop them. They knew about the 9-11 hijackers and that they were here in expired student visas. They knew about the Ft. Hood shooter long before and did nothing. They also knew about the Boston bombers about 5 years earlier and again...they did not do a damn thing about stopping them.

    I also remember reading somewhere that there is currently about 19,000 people from Mid-East countries, here in America on expired student visas and yes...again...they are doing NOTHING about it.

    So don't buy that old crap about "we need to gather and spy to keep you safe" nonsense. It is simply not true!

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    The absolute dogpile shitshow that is being directed towards Paul is like watching the cockroaches come out of the woodwork.

    "If you like your 4th Ammendment, you can keep your 4th Ammendment." - The Republican Party
    Any "Republican" chastising Paul is exposing him(her)self.

    We fought a Revolution against the British to throw off the shackles of tyranny; We fought a World War against Fascism/Totalitarianism, a multi-Generational/Multitheater "Cold" War against Communist dictatorial doctrine, and a War against Islamic Cultists and a tin-pot Dictator, only to have our every communication scooped up into a database, to be harangued, accosted and molested at the airport, to be watched, day-and-night, restlessly by a State that has disregarded the very Supreme Law of the Land that it claims governs it?

    **** that shit!

    I, like many of you, took an oath to defend the Constitution. I actually believe in the rule of Law, and so, it would appear, does Mr. Paul.

    So, if this is where we, as a nation, have come to, what in the **** did our brothers, friends, and forefathers fight and die for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Damage View Post
    He has a snowballs chance now, he is not going to get the lib vote, the rank a file GOP or the minority. I suspect he will only be able to pull in 20% against the other contenders.
    Look at it this way- when Rand Paul filibusters, we get our rights back, Evil is vanquished, and a Civil War is averted.

    When Turd Cruz filibusters, he just makes himself look like a fool and then nothing happens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcFLpCzZea0

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    Quote Originally Posted by KalashniKEV View Post
    Look at it this way- when Rand Paul filibusters, we get our rights back, Evil is vanquished, and a Civil War is averted.

    When Turd Cruz filibusters, he just makes himself look like a fool and then nothing happens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcFLpCzZea0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlander Systems View Post
    As much as we have butted heads in the past, God bless you.
    You need to replace the batteries in your sarcasm meter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    You need to replace the batteries in your sarcasm meter.
    ...shoulda known better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlander Systems View Post
    The absolute dogpile shitshow that is being directed towards Paul is like watching the cockroaches come out of the woodwork.



    Any "Republican" chastising Paul is exposing him(her)self.

    We fought a Revolution against the British to throw off the shackles of tyranny; We fought a World War against Fascism/Totalitarianism, a multi-Generational/Multitheater "Cold" War against Communist dictatorial doctrine, and a War against Islamic Cultists and a tin-pot Dictator, only to have our every communication scooped up into a database, to be harangued, accosted and molested at the airport, to be watched, day-and-night, restlessly by a State that has disregarded the very Supreme Law of the Land that it claims governs it?

    **** that shit!

    I, like many of you, took an oath to defend the Constitution. I actually believe in the rule of Law, and so, it would appear, does Mr. Paul.

    So, if this is where we, as a nation, have come to, what in the **** did our brothers, friends, and forefathers fight and die for?
    Very well put and echo's my sentiments on the topic nearly to the letter. What ought to scare you is Rand Paul was the ONLY one who stood up for the Constitution and the rule of law.

    I also fear you're forgetting about the safety of the chillens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlander Systems View Post
    The absolute dogpile shitshow that is being directed towards Paul is like watching the cockroaches come out of the woodwork.



    Any "Republican" chastising Paul is exposing him(her)self.

    We fought a Revolution against the British to throw off the shackles of tyranny; We fought a World War against Fascism/Totalitarianism, a multi-Generational/Multitheater "Cold" War against Communist dictatorial doctrine, and a War against Islamic Cultists and a tin-pot Dictator, only to have our every communication scooped up into a database, to be harangued, accosted and molested at the airport, to be watched, day-and-night, restlessly by a State that has disregarded the very Supreme Law of the Land that it claims governs it?

    **** that shit!

    I, like many of you, took an oath to defend the Constitution. I actually believe in the rule of Law, and so, it would appear, does Mr. Paul.

    So, if this is where we, as a nation, have come to, what in the **** did our brothers, friends, and forefathers fight and die for?
    And this is where the current GOP is at and what the big money donors are saying;

    http://www.aol.com/article/2015/06/0...%3D-1091063503

    Some of the biggest donors and fundraisers in the Republican Party, still uncertain who should get their support in 2016, are sprinkling their money around a presidential field that grows by the day.

    The largesse born of their indecision has a notable exception: Rand Paul.

    The Kentucky senator has aggressively tried to raise money around his effort to curtail the surveillance powers of the National Security Agency, emailing supporters and posting messages on social media imploring people to "celebrate this victory" with their cash.

    And

    Several other groups are prepared to pounce on Paul if they sense he is gaining traction in the race. Among them is a group led by John Bolton, a former ambassador to the United Nations who recently decided against running himself, but plans to push for strong national security policies from the sidelines.

    "I've spoken to well over 1,000 major Republican donors and can remember only one who agreed with Rand Paul on foreign policy," Bolton said. "The views he represents are a tiny, tiny minority within the Republican Party."

    I'm not sure that the GOP is ready for Paul. Most of his foreign policy is based upon staying out of foreign involvements and rewriting the tax code and paying the debt down.
    None of that is going to make money for people willing to buy, ahem, I mean donate to Paul candidacy. That alone should be enough to scare the crap out of you.

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    And if that's true it's utterly depressing...
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