Duggars

[Eurodriver]

I'll start off by saying I am not at all interested in their family, the TV show, or their desire to make as many babies as possible.

For those of you who don't know, their eldest son has recently been outed for inappropriate touching of several young girls (including his sisters, one of which was only 5) when he was a young teenager.

I'm not condoning his behavior of course, but I am extremely baffled at the hypocrisy of the anti-Christian left in outing this guy. He was never charged with anything. He was 14 years old and juvenile records should be sealed. The police reports that were released illegally (allegedly by the outgoing police chief that does not like the Duggar family) contain enough information to positively ID the victims of sexual molestation, and the media published them in full.

It is just insane, because last night I got into a little debate about this with a self proclaimed "lipstick feminist" who saw no wrongdoing whatsoever.

I compared this case to others, saying that if these police reports are okay to be released then the accusers of rapists should be reported on and every little hoodlum who is out robbing and assaulting people before he is 18 should have a publicly available record as well.

"Noooooo, that's so different. They are just making young mistakes. The Duggars are forcing their ideology on the rest of the world and should be treated harshly."

Sigh... Again. Not interested in debating the families lifestyle. But I think it's a shame what has been done to them regarding this "scandal". The father made a great point the other day. It's not like this is a secret. There was a police investigation, friends of the family knew, but it isn't like Josh goes around saying "hi. I'm a child molester".

What exactly do they want?

[RCI1911]

Everyone gets all giggly trying to find Christians in a hypocrisy. News flash, Christians get it wrong all the time. I'm a Christian and I fail all the time. When you have a standard to live by which is perfect you are going to fail at some point; it's inevitable. It's what you do after you fail that is important. Our failure doesn't make the standard wrong. Josh appears to have done all the right things after committing this terrible wrong. His sisters and others have apparently forgiven him and don't want this out in the public, and who can blame them.

I love when progressives complain about people like the Duggars "forcing their ideology on the rest of the world" yet progressives continually try to use political force to force their principles and secular ideologies on us all the time through government. I don't see the Duggars standing over anyone with a gun forcing them to watch their show. The argument of forcing ideology on anyone is ludicrous.

[Honu]

I just laugh at the chicks you hang out with ?

[Alex V]

I agree. But I feel the hypocrisy seems plentiful on both sides. I was watching out takes of the interview while fantasizing about Megyn Kelly last night... I mean while watching the Kelly File last night. Anyway. People seem to be up in arms that he molested his sister then 13years later is on the FRC and telling people that gay marriage is wrong. His mother defends him and tells people that his sisters and God forgave him but then says that transgendered people are all pedophiles. I mean come on? If everyone who has done wrong in the last kept their mouth shut no one would speak. But what about letting he/she who is without sin cast the stone? If your son molested your daughter, maybe you shouldn't be preaching to others on how they should live?

I know the left is having a field day with this and ignore tons of their own who do the same thing. But people on the right do the same thing. A preacher of some sort came on with Megyn last night (can't remember his name) and all he could say is that God forgave the Fugger Kid.

It's all f'ed up. Kid should have been arrested but the family and the local PD swept it under the rug for whatever reason.

I just laugh at the chicks you hang out with ?

I was about to say the same thing.

[Iraqgunz]

Well this little gem from Mr. Duggar certainly makes things uncomfortable.

http://wonkette.com/586578/jim-bob-d...e-put-to-death

[JS-Maine]

The idea that an act of wrong-doing then precludes that individual from ever expressing an opinion or stating something is right/wrong is ludicrous. We can all agree lying and stealing is wrong, so are we hypocrites and precluded from saying it is wrong to lie and steal because we have all lied and stole? People are hypocrites. All of us. Right is still right and wrong is still wrong.

[Abraham]

With all that's wrong in the world, THIS is what we focus on? (not a slam on the OP) - just my observation.

I can't get interested in a family's troubles especially since I don't know them.

Until Megyn Kelly's interview, I had no idea this family existed and even if I had, the last thing on earth I'd watch on T.V. is some family's doings whether Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or Martian.

How boring.

[Dave_M]

No need to put the word scandal in quotes. It's the very definition of one

: an occurrence in which people are shocked and upset because of behavior that is morally or legally wrong
: talk about the shocking or immoral things that people have done or are believed to have done
: something that is shocking, upsetting, or unacceptable
: discredit brought upon religion by unseemly conduct in a religious person

Literally any of those definitions applies.

I think it has more about being in the puclic eye than anything else. The religious and political views of the family makes it more shocking to the public though. Double so if they used some influence to ensure the kid wouldn't be prosecuted. Remember that this isn't just an accusation, the family came forward and admitted this happened.

Pedophilia has a higher rate of recidivism than heroin and the number of average victims over the course of a lifetime of a predator is staggering. You're not going to fix that dude. I'm sure more victims will come forward at some point. Either way, I wouldn't leave my daughter alone in a room with him.

[Dave_M]

The idea that an act of wrong-doing then precludes that individual from ever expressing an opinion or stating something is right/wrong is ludicrous. We can all agree lying and stealing is wrong, so are we hypocrites and precluded from saying it is wrong to lie and steal because we have all lied and stole? People are hypocrites. All of us. Right is still right and wrong is still wrong.

The nature of the crime applies though.

Everyone lies, many have stolen things (especially as children) so people have a point of reference. Molesting kids though? Nope.

To use a little hyperbole to make a point;
John Wayne Gacey may have had some excellent advice on leadership from his volunteer work with the Boy Scouts...

[SOW_0331]

Leave the Duggars alone! This is just another example of the leftist anti-Christian communist socialist Obama-blowing media trying to smear the good name of a well known Christian family in the public eye. Indeed, those gay loving media mouthpieces won't stop until they've destroyed the churches and removed THE LORD from schools.

Well..then again...

The kid was at the age where most young men begin getting sexually active, so he knew what he was doing. But in that family and that church sect, that's not okay. So he forcefully molested his own sister and other young (pre-pubescent) girls from the community. Not once. Not until he got caught, but even after being caught. Well as long as it wasn't Suzy Rottencrotch he was finger banging right? Wouldn't want to go and sin in the eyes of THE LORD!!?!!

Charges weren't filed so he must be innocent? Uh, okay, then why did he and the family publicly admit that he did exactly what he was accused of? Probably just caved under the pressure of the Barack HUSSEIN Obama controlled media. And the father brought little diddle fingers to the Sheriff. A family friend and member of the same tight knit church, the Sheriff told Dad Duggar to handle it after a "stern talking to". That Sheriff by the way was later arrested and is currently in prison for child pornography. Ooops. I wonder if that was just planted evidence to ruin the Sheriff by the Clinton mafia.

So the boy was then sent away for the summer to do "hard labor as a punishment and receive counseling. Which he did, so that's probably what cured him. But then it was admitted by Mrs. CrazyEyes Duggar that he really only went to hang drywall a couple times while living with his uncle. Its a miracle, he's cured!

Coincidentally none of the other parents pressed charges against him because he probably learned his lesson. And because that would likely get the show cancelled and the church, which was/is a major center of the community, would stop getting a huge payout in donations from the Duggars. So after a meeting with the pastor, the parents decided their daughters were less important than the church receiving their money.

Can you see why even those who are not Anti-Christian think this looks more like a cult than a good Christian community? And that kid isn't fixed, you don't try to fvck your own sister when she's a child (or at any age) and just outgrow it one day.