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    NJ restraining order faill

    Poor woman. This type of thing really boils my blood. There's so much fail here it's beyond disgusting.

    On April 21, Carol Bowne from Berlin Township, NJ, applied for a license to own a handgun, which she wanted to protect herself from a former boyfriend against whom she had a restraining order.

    On June 3—while still waiting for the state to give her permission to own a gun—Bowne’s former boyfriend, Michael Eitel, allegedly stabbed her to death in her own driveway.

    According to the Courier-Post, after getting the restraining order, Bowne “installed security cameras and an alarm system to her home and began the months-long process of obtaining a handgun.” Bowne’s co-workers said, “She got a restraining order about a month ago, and right after that her car windows were broken.”

    Bowne “had inquired” about the progress of her gun license request as recently as June 1, but the “application process typically takes two months or more as police collect information on the applicant, including fingerprints and reference checks.”

    Eitel, Bowne’s former boyfriend, is “a convicted felon” who, as of Thursday, had still managed to elude authorities. He pleaded “guilty to a weapons offense in 2008 after being indicted in 2006 on a charge of aggravated assault with bodily injury. He received a five-year sentence for that offense, which neighbors said was related to an assault on a former girlfriend.”

    This tragedy is one more example of the foolishness of putting a licensing requirement on the Second Amendment. Like all gun control, it empowers those with criminal intentions while making the vulnerable more vulnerable.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...on-to-own-gun/
    Last edited by WillBrink; 06-06-15 at 10:42.
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    Saw a blurp about this on FB.

    Once again, government fails . . .
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    Well they sure protected Her from some gun violence.
    I'm not sure I could live in New Jersey. To be honest there are some great job opportunities available if I was willing to leave Texas to pursue them, I'm not really willing to.
    I'm not sure how those in charge of places like New Jersey can live with themselves. It apparently hasn't effect Chris Christy's appetite.

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    As usual, I have a little different take on this situation. Perhaps it is because I took time to actually read the entire article.

    A gun may or may not have helped her. This lady's best chance of surviving the failed relationship was to not involve herself with a convicted felon in the first place - especially one whose prior offenses included prison time for beating a former girlfriend.

    Thus, her pattern of poor decision making in choosing her companions and state of residence are far more proximal causes of her demise than NJ's ridiculous gun laws.
    Last edited by Sensei; 06-06-15 at 11:38.
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    According to the law, the FID process should take no more than 30 days. But the courts said that the law doesn't matter and PDs can take as long as they wish. After Sandy Hook pistol purchase permits were taking 6months in some towns.

    Plus, she was stabbed in her driveway. The gun in her bedroom dresser would not have helped and there is NO WAY in hell he would have been granted a carry permit. Well, she can get a carry permit now since there is a justifiable need lol. Too bad she had to die to demonstrate the need.

    Still have about 5 years in this shit hole. :-(
    Last edited by Alex V; 06-07-15 at 08:44.
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    Tell me about it. I couldn't get my CHL because i ran a stop sign 5 years ago.... Now i have to wait till october before im eligible.. And wait probably another year. It took texas a YEAR to tell me no...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBullet432 View Post
    Tell me about it. I couldn't get my CHL because i ran a stop sign 5 years ago.... Now i have to wait till october before im eligible.. And wait probably another year. It took texas a YEAR to tell me no...
    Where the hell was this stop sign? The barricade to the White House?
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    What's worse is that her having the handgun wouldn't have made any difference since she would not have been able to bring it out of the house or carry on person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    As usual, I have a little different take on this situation. Perhaps it is because I took time to actually read the entire article.

    A gun may or may not have helped her. This lady's best chance of surviving the failed relationship was to not involve herself with a convicted felon in the first place - especially one whose prior offenses included prison time for beating a former girlfriend.

    Thus, her pattern of poor decision making in choosing her companions and state of residence are far more proximal causes of her demise than NJ's ridiculous gun laws.
    I get your point; but it's not as if everyone who has done time is honest and qualifies this info to future associates.

    For all we know she had no clue of this guys past until it was too late.

    Poor choice of where to live yes; but specifically due to the bonehead unconstitutional illegal laws. When laws don't allow people the right to defend themselves; we blame the person? I agree you should up and leave shit states with awful laws; but many figure this out when it is too late; she was trying to get a gun and CCW to protect herself.

    I blame all of us for allowing our corrupt and tyrannical governments to turn our right to keep and BEAR arms into a permission with waiting periods, registration lists and taxes that destroy our rights.

    This is a failure of policy and a failure of "We the people".

    It's sad how this woman is at fault in your opinion and not the fact that she has been turned into a slave who cannot excersise her God given and constitutional rights due to a tyrannical and bullshit government.

    If you can logically blame this individual for her choice to live where she did; then it is just as easy to blame yourself, me and everyone else for allowing our elected officials to deny us our rights and turn us into victims in waiting.
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    It just gets better:

    POS is dead by his own hands, and "Three state senators on Friday said they'd introduce a bill that would prioritize permit requests for people who held current restraining orders."

    Too little too late for her, and one shouldn't need to be at the point a restraining order exists before Const Right is acknowledged, but for NJ, maybe a step in the right direction.

    http://www.courierpostonline.com/sto...ship/28605651/
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