The new Aluminum Raptor will be a 2017 model available in 2016.
Doc, I gotta disagree with you on the Raptor. But the F250 is one heck of a vehicle too.
Just like rifles, you get what you pay for, up to a point of course.
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The new Aluminum Raptor will be a 2017 model available in 2016.
Doc, I gotta disagree with you on the Raptor. But the F250 is one heck of a vehicle too.
Just like rifles, you get what you pay for, up to a point of course.
Last edited by HKGuns; 06-12-15 at 16:49.
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Yeah my fault, I mis-read the story form the magazine Ford sent out with the GT on the cover. There are 6 Raptors owned in the tiny little town I work in, 2 of them get worked very hard (logging company), and I don't know of any complaints... except the $1,200 a month payment!Originally Posted by HKGuns
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As far as I'm concerned bugging out is a pipe dream in my situation. Where would I go? I'm a cop in DC and live in the inner Virginia suburbs...I work 12.5 hour shifts 5 days a week so there's a 37% chance off the bat that whatever happens is going to happen while I'm on duty. There will be NO "get home" strategy. I've had this talk with my wife and if TSHTF in DC while I'm on duty, I'm staying until we're either all dead or have the situation resolved.
If something happens in the other 63% of the week that I'm not on duty, there's a good chance I'll be bugging IN to the city to help out once I have determined that my wife is safe, preferably in the company of her parents (they live in the next 'burb over). I'll be bugging in with my 2011 Outback Sport. Its not much good in serious off road conditions but it has gotten me through every soft road/inclement weather situation I've ever encountered in it, up to and including 10" of snow. I keep an overnight bag packed in it in the off chance I have to spend a night at the station - riots, terrorist attack, natural disaster, etc.
If something happens that leaves DC uninhabitable (dirty bomb, nuke, allen invasion, etc), well again theres that 37% chance I'm toast anyway. In that scenario the entirety of the DC metro area will be trying to get the fook out of town and no amount of knobby tires and lockers will do any good when the interstate is literally locked up solid (I was here for 9/11, I-395 SB out of the city was so grid locked that people literally ditched their cars and walked home. And if it's something simple like losing power for a week, well we had that with the derecho a few years back and it was mostly a non-event. There was a lot of dry ice and coolers trucked in from out of town, but for the most part the old people stayed at the community centers which had power, and the rest of us healthy folks just sweated a whole lot more than usual. Not much in the way of unprepared city folks struggling to survive as some fantasize. My commute into the city really sucked though with so many of the traffic lights dead for the first couple of days.
So, I guess I don't really have a ready vehicle in the sense that many if you do. I think the concept works alot better if you're in a rural area. If anything, I'd probably ride a bicycle out to the blue Ridge mountains if I really really needed to.
Last edited by ChaseN; 06-15-15 at 02:27.
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In all seriousness, a mountain bike is a good means of transportation for a lot of local disaster/SHTF type situations (assuming it's a permissive environment for unprotected travel.) It obviously can't carry enough or take you far enough to be a "bug out" vehicle for most, but a lot of needs can be addressed locally, depending on the situation. A bike beats traffic and doesn't burn gas, and saves time and calories over walking. Mountain bikes can deal with uneven terrain as well, allowing one to leave roads and pavement when needed. Having experienced tornadoes, hurricanes, NYC on 9/11, and earthquakes, bicycles were out and about in all of them where traffic was often gridlocked or roads were impassable.
Funny how every apocalyptic TV/movie drama seems to forget the bicycle. I guess they aren't "tacticool" enough for the silver screen.
Last edited by sevenhelmet; 06-18-15 at 17:11.
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Still building her
3"lift, 35" tires two full size spares ( don't recommend 35"s lots of cutting and welding needed) warren 9k winch, still lots to do but she's getting there
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Don't underestimate them subies love them get you all kids of places, just learn this mantra "wheel placement wheel,placement wheel,placement" and you'll be following us trucks most of the time.
a bike is a great option.
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No doubt! I had zero experience with Subaru's during last 15+ years as either driver or passenger, but after seeing commercials on safety and longevity, I was curious, so I went to check them out at a local dealer.
We drove a couple vehicles, but the 2015 Outback with "eyesight" was simply unbelievable to me. Comfortable, great safety features, great handling, and solid acceleration. But the thing that put it over the top was when the salesman directed us to a grassy area for a little off-road stuff.
Basically, we drove out into a flat field that was totally waterlogged from all our recent torrential rain. There were deep ruts in the grass that were likely made by a full size pickup, and were over a foot deep and full of water and mud. And this soil is very caliche, with a high clay content, so it's slick and gooey.
When the salesman said to go out and drive anywhere, I thought he was crazy. I asked him what his plan was should we get stuck, because I was neither pushing nor paying for the tow truck recovery. He said not to worry about it.
So I spent the next 10 minutes trying to stick that Outback. I bottomed out a lot but I'll be damned but that little wagon just went everywhere. Even when I drove perpendicular to the deepest ruts and the Outback bottomed out where it wouldn't go forward, I could always drop it in reverse, work the steering wheel, and get myself out. All this with all season radials and maybe 6" ground clearance.
I am now a believer! When we replace my wife's Chevy Equinox, it will absolutely be with either an Outback or maybe a Forrester.
FWIW, I've been a 4X4 owner since 1980 when I bought my first Jeep Cherokee that I used to thrash on every skidder log trail I could find within 30 miles of my rural NH home. Owned full size 1/2 & 3/4 ton pickups and 4 banger rice burners and ran all through snow, mud, and hills. I've four-wheeled in the mountains of MT during my 7 years stationed there and the tundra of interior AK for 8 years I was there, among other parts of the U.S., so while in not nearly as experienced as many here, I do have a clue about off-roading.
Bottom line, I've never experienced any 4*4 system as effortless as Subaru's. Simply amazing! If they put their system in a 3/4 ton pickup, it would be unbelievable. And I can definitely believe a Forrester or Outback would make a great 'ready vehicle'.
YMMV...
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I am pretty happy with my new vehicle. It's a 2015 Tacoma 4x4 with the 2.7 liter 4 cylinder engine and a 5 speed manual transmission. I upgraded the suspension with Bilstein coil overs and added BFG AT KO2 tires. It's pretty good on gas for a 4x4 and doesn't have a problem going in bad weather or off road. Plus it runs on regular gas so that makes it easier to find if the situation was bad enough that I need to siphon it from other vehicles.
However if I could afford one, I'd have a Raptor in a heartbeat. I love that thing.
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What is the obsession with the raptors ?
If you took the same money it cost you could build a way more capable truck.
It's not like it even has real race suspension they just tossed fox shocks on standard leaf springs
For off the shelf race check out the rally fighter
Last edited by 20ozjolt; 06-19-15 at 00:34.
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Of course you could build something more capable off road but it wouldn't be as nice on road. I need something to get around in not play with. I drove one and it was very nice. The long travel Fox suspension rides great. Gas mileage sucks though.
I just want one because I think it's cool. But my Tacoma is a more practical vehicle.
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