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Thread: WOW: Rep. Bishop Introduces Bill To Gut “Sporting Purposes,” Prohibit Ammo Bans

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    Quote Originally Posted by THCDDM4 View Post
    This is great!

    Already emailed all my reps and sent the call out to everyone I know.

    Start calling emailing and don't let up. A few minutes a day from everyone of us and everyone we know who would get behind this might just make a difference.
    This x Infinity

    I'm going to send an email out tomorrow with the appropriate links to my coworkers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidjinks View Post
    I'm kind of in the same boat as you are.

    What would it take to remove the ATF's ability to "regulate" constitutional rights?

    However, I am happy to see attempts being made by elected officials to protect what rights we have.
    Furthermore, what is preventing the States, from preempting NFA regulations, much like Colorado and the dope-smoking hippies out there?

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    Looking at how many actual bills in a year become laws (congress.gov has a good pull down search system) I would say this doesn't have much of a chance, but that doesn't mean i'm not going to put this particular bug in my Congressmen and Senators ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorphCross View Post
    Looking at how many actual bills in a year become laws (congress.gov has a good pull down search system) I would say this doesn't have much of a chance, but that doesn't mean i'm not going to put this particular bug in my Congressmen and Senators ears.
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    Below you can find the wording of the proposed bill. Below that, you will find a link to contact your Representative. Below that, you will find my letter addressing the issue, and expressing my concern. I did the heavy lifting, so get crackin’. We can’t complain about the erosion of our rights, if we do not make all legal efforts to protect them.

    http://cdn.bearingarms.com/uploads/2015/06/2710.pdf

    Ban on ammunition restrictions, and removal/redaction of the so-called “Sporting Clause”.

    Go here to get your Rep’s e-mail address:

    http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

    The Honorable (full name)
    U.S. House of Representatives
    Washington, D.C. 20515

    Dear Representative (last name):

    The Lawful Purpose and Self Defense Act, also known as H.R. 2710, has been introduced by United States Representative Rob Bishop of Utah. This bill is aimed at limiting the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) from using executive overreach in an attempt to undermine, and circumvent, the Second Amendment of the Constitution. This legislation would curtail arbitrary bans, similar to one attempted earlier this year by the current Executive Branch.

    H.R. 2710, which is commonly referred to as the “Lawful Purpose and Self-Defense Act,” would:

    Eliminate the BATFE’s authority to reclassify commonly used ammunition;

    Provide for the lawful importation of any non-National Firearms Act regulated firearms or ammunition, that would otherwise be lawfully possessed and sold within the United States;

    Protect shotguns, shotgun shells, and larger caliber rifles from arbitrary classification as “destructive devices,” which, under federal law, subjects them to onerous registration and taxation provisions and creates a ban on the possession of the firearm in some states;

    Broaden the temporary interstate transfer provision to allow temporary transfers for all lawful purposes rather than the ambiguous current wording of “sporting purposes”;

    Representative Bishop has shown tremendous leadership in protecting the Second Amendment rights of all Americans. Also, the State Attorney General of Georgia, Mr. Samuel S. Olens, was one of 23 other State Attorneys General, who urged the BATFE not to revive, or pursue, an arbitrary reclassification of ammunition.

    Beyond the specifics of the bilI, I am concerned about the Executive Branch, as well as regulatory and enforcement agencies, circumventing Article I of the Constitution, by attempting to legislate by Fiat. I understand this bill to further prevent any intrusion into the issue of Constitutional circumvention, both for the rights of citizens, as well as the powers vested to the Senate and House of Representatives.

    Thank you for your consideration of my viewpoint on this matter. I believe it is an important issue, and would like to see the legislation pass to ensure clarity in the law, as well as preventing Executive overreach.

    Sincerely,
    Outlander Systems,
    123 Liberty Avenue
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    outlandersystems@m4carbine.net
    Obviously, change the names to protect the innocent. As well, you can reference here to confirm your State AG was one of the 23 requesting the BATFE to stand down on a ban on M855:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/259177109/...mmo-ban#scribd

    The Attorneys General were from the following states:


    Alabama * Arizona * Arkansas * Florida * Georgia Idaho * Kansas * Kentucky * Louisiana * Michigan Mississippi * Montana * Nebraska * Nevada * North Dakota Ohio * Oklahoma * Pennsylvania * South Carolina South Dakota * Texas * Utah * Wyoming
    Last edited by Outlander Systems; 06-12-15 at 07:31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nimdabew View Post
    I am all for it, but does anyone have reason this has a snowballs chance in hell of making it?
    Comments like this are exactly why our rights continue eroding year by year. The anti's don't care if it will pass or what the odds are they get behind it 100% with all their emotion & hyperbole. Our side wants to sit on the sideline and debate if it has a chance to make it or not or deserves our effort that otherwise is fully focused on determining if a cause is worth it or not.
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    Doesn't go far enough IMO but it's a good start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    "‘recognized as suitable for lawful purposes’’ is still arbitrary enough for ATF to continue making "determinations."
    Exactly.

    Who determines suitability?

    By what process is an item deemed suitable... and how is it appealed?

    Do all firearms default to "suitable" or "unsuitable?" Is the line arbitrary?

    Something like:
    A Remington 700 is obviously suitable.
    Is a Masterpiece MAC-type obviously unsuitable?

    Terrible wording.

    It removes sporting purpose and replaces it with something else that is completely subjective.

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