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    Suppressor info - Help a new guy not make a mistake

    I finally put together a NFA trust so that I could SBR a lower and purchase a few suppressors but I have basically zero experience with suppressors with the exception of shooting a few (no idea what brands). I have a realistic expectation of how much noise reduction the provide so I am not expecting movie quiet or anything like that but I really don't know what to look for and could use some guidance from you more experienced guys.

    From the reading I have done I have decided that I probably will want a .30 cal, .45 ACP, and .22 LR can. Applications I would use them on are my 5.56 AR's, AR-10, .308 bolt action, .45 ACP and 9mm handguns, and then .22 LR handgun/rifle. I am sure I will get a .300 blk upper later and possibly a .300 WM one day.

    Expected use will mainly be plinking as well as hunting with the bolt gun. I am not rolling in cash so I can't just go grab the best of the best but at the same time I don't want to cheap out, be disappointed and wishing I had spent more later. I also really want to get a brand that will stand behind their work in case something happens down the road (if 41P passes I will have a hard time getting another one since my CLEO won't sign off).

    What I need help on are things/features to look for, brands to look at/avoid, and where the sweet spot is in terms of price for performance. I have never been steered wrong from the advice I have read on this site so I figure it is the best place to help educate me on suppressors as well.

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    Silencerco Omega with 5.56 endcap, Octane 45 with 9mm endcap, and a Sparrow should cover all of your bases.
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    Rugged Surge (a 7.62 can you can shorten, and also has 5.56 end cap option)
    Griffin Revolution (a .45 can you can shorten if you want, uses Silencerco pistons)
    Silencerco Spectre II (most versatile rimfire can, nice mix of length/weight/performance/cost)

    I'd also consider the Specwar 7.62 instead of the Surge. Using the ASR mounts, you can even add an Omega and/or a Saker down the road and not have to switch out the muzzle devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWaylon View Post
    Rugged Surge (a 7.62 can you can shorten, and also has 5.56 end cap option)
    Griffin Revolution (a .45 can you can shorten if you want, uses Silencerco pistons)
    Silencerco Spectre II (most versatile rimfire can, nice mix of length/weight/performance/cost)

    I'd also consider the Specwar 7.62 instead of the Surge. Using the ASR mounts, you can even add an Omega and/or a Saker down the road and not have to switch out the muzzle devices.
    Good advice, but I will warn against the SpecWar 762. It's way too big and heavy, unless it's for a bolt gun, which is what I use mine for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter37 View Post
    Good advice, but I will warn against the SpecWar 762. It's way too big and heavy, unless it's for a bolt gun, which is what I use mine for.
    But it is quiet.

    Plus, if cost is a factor, it's fits in nicely.

    But the weight is also the reason I mentioned the Omega and Sakers (plus the 556 and 556K).

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    Try to determine what your priorities are for each can and that will give you three or four cans to choose from. Good thread on priorities - https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...he-Surefire-RC

    There are lots of companies that make excellent suppressors so when someone list three cans from the same company you may want to keep looking.

    Rifle cans - get what you want based on your list of needs. See thread above and there are other great threads here so I would recommend doing some searching and lots of reading.
    Pistol cans - The new 2 in 1 cans that are long and you can then screw off part of the can to have a shorty for home defense seem to be a nice option. You need to clean pistol cans so this should factor into your decision but not heavily.
    22lr cans - if you have kids or plan to shoot a LOT with a 22 can, the ability to break it down and easily clean it should be high on your list.

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    I was in the same boat as you a while ago. I ended up purchasing a Saker 762, Octane 45, and Spectre II. And I didn't intend to go full SiCo either (well two of those cans are really SWR). My going in choices were AAC SDN-6, Tirant 45, and "whatever" 22 can. I was also very interested in the SF line. Only after about two months of some reading here, Silencer Talk, NFA Talk, and watching every Silencershop video under the sun, did I select the cans that I did. All the selections were of a calculated nature. I can tell you that I ruled out the Sparrow just based on everyone's comments concerning first round pop. The Spectre II and the Element 2 were the two rimfire cans that seemed universally five star. When the stamp came in for the Spectre II, the shop had an Element 2 in stock so I picked one of those up too. Still waiting on stamps for the others. The Spectre II is a hoot, really quiet. Running it on a 10/22 Take Down with a Tactical Solutions SBX barrel. Freaking cool.

    Priority wise, I was really only interested in calibers that were truly quite when suppressed. For me that boiled down to 300 BLK, .45 ACP and .22. I will use the Saker on a Mk18 upper and SCAR17 purely because I can, but I really wanted it for 300BLK. The Octane will serve on a bunch of .45/9mm pistols as well as an UZI SBR and hopefully an MPX SBR. It may also see some 300 subs. I wouldn't mind getting another rifle and pistol can just to have two cans for each application and then call it good. Maybe a Liberty Mystic X and another .30 cal can. SF has some nice ones coming out for 300. Last thing I need to do is start collecting cans though!
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    Highly recommend the sparrow. It's a a great serviceable can that excels in sound suppression and price point. I like the Thompson machine offerings too

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    Thanks for the advice everyone. If anyone knows of a good introduction post somewhere that would be helpful as well. It is hard to define my priorities when I don't really know what to prioritize since I haven't really used one except to shoot it. I don't really understand even the basics like different attachments, that's how green I am on this topic.

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    Good video to watch - https://youtu.be/2HzMLvrF6u4

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