LAV bans use of appendix holsters in his classes.

[Eurodriver]

It's about damn time.

Appendix holsters are great for CCW. You know, situations where you holster your gun safely in your bedroom, pull your gun out to shoot a bad guy, and then immediately call 911.

They are not great for high round count classes where you are drawing your pistol (and more importantly, reholstering) 100+ times where the instructor is deliberately trying to induce stress and fatigue.

Disclaimer: I use an appendix carry holster every day.

[Moose-Knuckle]

I saw that post on FB as well. I AIWB everyday and would never AWIB in a class that was not geared specifically to concealed carry. I don't blame LAV one bit and considering there have been TWO ND's in related classes by other instructors it's just plain good horse sense.

Most folks attending classes have only shot on square ranges that don't allow drawing/firing/re-holstering so it's not in good form to do it for the first time with live rounds no less a hundred plus times in a course oriented for combat handguns.

[ST911]

There can be a lot of derp already with retentionless open carried 3:00 OWB in open enrollment and LE classes. If class conditions aren't conducive to the extra cautions required of AIWB, it makes sense.

[4DAIVI PAI2K5]

I saw that post on FB as well. I AIWB everyday and would never AWIB in a class that was not geared specifically to concealed carry. I don't blame LAV one bit and considering there have been TWO ND's in related classes by other instructors it's just plain good horse sense.

Most folks attending classes have only shot on square ranges that don't allow drawing/firing/re-holstering so it's not in good form to do it for the first time with live rounds no less a hundred plus times in a course oriented for combat handguns.

Are there threads on the other two ND's. I keep hearing about them but haven't read anything.

I carry AWIB EDC. You need to be deliberate and aware every time you holster the gun.
I see his point and also believe in his business, his rules.

[CoryCop25]

I know of one of the two incidents that LAV speaks of but I won't speak about them unless I'm granted permission and I wouldn't speak about it in an open forum. I carry appendix most of the time but I only practice presentation with an empty weapon. It is a fast and very concealable mode of carry but it is way too dangerous. I would not allow it when I am teaching either. Appendix carry has become a fad in the shooting community and the cool guy status in this situation has become more dangerous than what it's worth. I am pretty certain that you will see this AIWB ban across the board in at least the higher end shooting instructor group.
If I dare to throw more common sense into my post, think about this....
Most shooting ranges are in semi-remote areas and not too close to trauma centers. Why not be cautious instead of cool?

[T2C]

The restriction makes sense. Unless you have known a particular group of students for several years and are familiar with their ability, you have to establish certain restrictions on equipment used in courses.

[ForTehNguyen]

so what makes appendix carry more dangerous as opposed to 3:00 or 4:30 carrying? Assuming all are IWB

[T2C]

so what makes appendix carry more dangerous as opposed to 3:00 or 4:30 carrying? Assuming all are IWB

The person using the equipment. If you have a ND with a holster located at another position, there is less chance of serious injury.

[CatSnipah]

The person using the equipment. If you have a ND with a holster located at another position, there is less chance of serious injury.

Also, depending on how you draw, it's more common to sweep your neighbor.

[CoryCop25]

so what makes appendix carry more dangerous as opposed to 3:00 or 4:30 carrying? Assuming all are IWB

Unless you are a super skinny 6 pack wearing body type, you can not watch your muzzle into the holster. Some of us have a thicker mid section and the view gets obstructed. You cant see the opening in the holster or any obstructions. And before anyone flames me that I shouldn't have to look into my holster before holstering, I'll tell you this. Unless you are a cop that has to go hands on immediately after presenting his weapon to say use handcuffs or control techniques, THERE IS NO REASON TO HOLSTER QUICKLY!
This mode of carry was invented by a very thin DOJ agent who used a Sig P228 and was able to place his thumb on the hammer while holstering which would prevent the weapon from discharging if something got into the trigger guard while holstering.