Karl Rove: Only Way To Stop The Violence Is To Repeal Second Amendment

**ABNAK** · 06-21-15, 18:47

All any attempts at nationwide, sweeping gun control would accomplish is to turn law-abiding, productive citizens into criminals. That in and of itself presents a whole slew of problems, as the resentment and defiance that would follow in much of the country could effectively turn this place upside down. Look at what started to happen after Sandy Hook and the full-court press for gun control that followed; it was stopped legislatively but there was an air of defiance I had rarely seen in the gun-owning community. A digging-in of the heels if you will. I'm not making any predictions or spouting off about "revolution" or such but I can in all honesty say that something to the extreme that Rove suggested/mentioned would be a bad, bad idea. Forcing people's backs against a wall----armed people at that----who were created criminals is not the wisest course of action.

Besides, the Constitution (for damn good reason) is not easy to amend. There are enough "free" states in this country that the required number of passage by state legislatures wouldn't happen.

**Sensei** · 06-21-15, 19:07

Originally Posted by WillBrink

He said:

"Now maybe there’s some magic law that will keep us from having more of these. I mean basically the only way to guarantee that we will dramatically reduce acts of violence involving guns is to basically remove guns from society, and until somebody gets enough “oomph” to repeal the Second Amendment, that’s not going to happen. I don’t think that’s an answer."

I guess it depends on context how that can be taken, but if he's been known as a "gun rights activist" as they claim, it would seem the context would be he's not in favor per se of repealing the 2A.

I added in bold the sentence that Rove said at the end of the quote that you provided in reference to a repeal of the 2nd Amendment. Most libertarian websites have removed that sentence to make it sound like he supports the repeal of the 2nd Amendment. That is what the Alex Jones and Glenn Beck nut suckers do on websites like InfoWars and TheBlaze.

Originally Posted by jpmuscle

No your right. He simply proffered it at as viable solution in a factual context.

Comes across as a suggestion to me.

It appears that you didn't watch the interview either. If you had, you would have noticed that he clearly said that repealing the 2nd Amendment was not advisable, and the referenced quote was sarcasm directed toward the anti-gun left.

When you see crap like this on websites like InfoWars and TheBlaze with no links to the entire video, that's what I call a clue.

**WillBrink** · 06-21-15, 19:32

Originally Posted by Sensei

I added in bold the sentence that Rove said at the end of the quote that you provided in reference to a repeal of the 2nd Amendment. Most libertarian websites have removed that sentence to make it sound like he supports the repeal of the 2nd Amendment. That is what the Alex Jones and Glenn Beck nut suckers do on websites like InfoWars and TheBlaze.

Libertarians are not anti gun by nature, so I'm confused why they'd do that. Brady Bunch et al yes. More about making Rove look bad than an anti gun agenda?

**Alpha-17** · 06-21-15, 19:45

Originally Posted by WillBrink

Libertarians are not anti gun by nature, so I'm confused why they'd do that. Brady Bunch et al yes. More about making Rove look bad than an anti gun agenda?

Vilify Rove perhaps? Rove represents a portion of the Republican party they're not exactly fond of. Though, honestly, I'd hesitate to call Glen Beck a "libertarian".

**Biggy** · 06-21-15, 19:54

He went from : the " Only Way To Stop The Violence Is To Repeal Second Amendment to : the Only Way To * reduce* The Violence Is To Repeal Second Amendment. I use to think the only thing worse than a republican was a democrat , anymore they are pretty much the same to me. If it would ever come to that, ammo prices would go to the moon

**weggy** · 06-21-15, 19:56

Originally Posted by Amp Mangum

Republican strategist Karl Rove said on “Fox News Sunday” the only way to stop gun-related violence, like the Wednesday massacre at Emmanuel African Methodist Church in Charleston S.C., was to repeal American citizens’ Second Amendment rights.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/21/ka...#ixzz3djL4FfLs

And this takes the guns out of the hands of thug and criminals? How? Just seems to leave me unable to protect myself.

**Sensei** · 06-21-15, 19:59

Originally Posted by WillBrink

Libertarians are not anti gun by nature, so I'm confused why they'd do that. Brady Bunch et al yes. More about making Rove look bad than an anti gun agenda?

These libertarian websites hate Rove and the "establishment GOP." They are not above using lies and distortions to discredit him.

Let me clarify, not all libertarians are like this - just a very vocal few.