TPP

[murphman]

I think wikileaks mentioned something like 4 years before the docs have to be released, the f is this shyt.

[ralph]

Yup I posted about this in either the Cruz or Paul for president thread as they were both for the fast track at that time. Not one single comment, no what is the TPP or this fast track you mention no well if they are for it then that raises big questions as to their real agendas. Absolutely nothing.

It DOES raise a lot of questions as to exactly what are their real agenda's...I'm very frustrated at this point. I'm not going to vote for a traitor, and that's what I consider anyone who voted for the TPP.. Looks like next year, I might just stay home on election day, as at this juncture I no longer see the point, or value in voting.. Vote? For what?

" It is well enough that the people know there was an election,
The people who cast the votes, decide nothing,
The people who count the votes, decide everything."
Joseph Stalin

[brickboy240]

There just might be no good reason to vote in national elections anymore...you might be right.

[jpmuscle]

Other than the obvious reason which is people would be revolting if they actually knew what the bill said what was the lie i mean reason they are giving for keeping the text secret?

[murphman]

It DOES raise a lot of questions as to exactly what are their real agenda's...I'm very frustrated at this point. I'm not going to vote for a traitor, and that's what I consider anyone who voted for the TPP.. Looks like next year, I might just stay home on election day, as at this juncture I no longer see the point, or value in voting.. Vote? For what?

" It is well enough that the people know there was an election,
The people who cast the votes, decide nothing,
The people who count the votes, decide everything."
Joseph Stalin

Worded poorly on my part, when I said "Absolutely nothing" I meant no one made a single comment on the matter. I do agree that it does raise a lot of questions.

Edit: As of recently both Cruz and Paul were not for the fast tracking of the TPP, not sure on their stance with the TPP it's self.

[murphman]

I get the strange feeling if the TPP gets passed Obama is going to have a future on some committee panel or some high level Union position where he will still have power to change America.

[ralph]

I get the strange feeling if the TPP gets passed Obama is going to have a future on some committee panel or some high level Union position where he will still have power to change America.

Here's some food for thought..What's to stop Obumbo from slipping in a "Emergency Powers Act" in to the back pages of say, a 6000 pg "trade bill" and give congress about 2days to read it and vote on it?(remember under the TPP, Congress can't alter, debate, take parts out, nothing like that, they'll get a limited amount of time read it, and vote yes, or no) Think something similar to what Hitler used to get total control of the German gov't after the Riechstag (sp?) fire, And make himself Dictator? Not a damn thing.. That's what's so scary about this, Obumbo can do anything he wants, pass anything, as long as it's part of, or a "trade bill" It gets worse..Now, it seems, It's just coming out there's also a Trans-Atlantic Trade Partnership as well, Folks, we are screwed as a country... The Corporate Fascists are going to take over, if we let them.. WAKE UP AMERICA, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD,WAKE UP!!!!

[ralph]

Worded poorly on my part, when I said "Absolutely nothing" I meant no one made a single comment on the matter. I do agree that it does raise a lot of questions.

Edit: As of recently both Cruz and Paul were not for the fast tracking of the TPP, not sure on their stance with the TPP it's self.

I understood what you meant, Cruz's or Paul's stance on this I'm not sure about.. I don't trust flip-floppers either.

[murphman]

Here's some food for thought..What's to stop Obumbo from slipping in a "Emergency Powers Act" in to the back pages of say, a 6000 pg "trade bill" and give congress about 2days to read it and vote on it?(remember under the TPP, Congress can't alter, debate, take parts out, nothing like that, they'll get a limited amount of time read it, and vote yes, or no) Think something similar to what Hitler used to get total control of the German gov't after the Riechstag (sp?) fire, And make himself Dictator? Not a damn thing.. That's what's so scary about this, Obumbo can do anything he wants, pass anything, as long as it's part of, or a "trade bill" It gets worse..Now, it seems, It's just coming out there's also a Trans-Atlantic Trade Partnership as well, Folks, we are screwed as a country... The Corporate Fascists are going to take over, if we let them.. WAKE UP AMERICA, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD,WAKE UP!!!!

This is what I was leaning to when I mention Union positions and such. People are whispering that the TPP ties in with the TATP and will finally merge the United States with the EU and 12 Asian countries. Obama then wouldn't even need his current presidency to Impose his will on the US if he hold some high ranking Union/trade committee position. I cannot speak on it because if documents were leaked I have not come across them but if this tie with TATP is true then Agenda 21 is nearly complete.

[ralph]

This is what I was leaning to when I mention Union positions and such. People are whispering that the TPP ties in with the TATP and will finally merge the United States with the EU and 12 Asian countries. Obama then wouldn't even need his current presidency to Impose his will on the US if he hold some high ranking Union/trade committee position. I cannot speak on it because if documents were leaked I have not come across them but if this tie with TATP is true then Agenda 21 is nearly complete.

Ahh, Gotcha!