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    Next they will side on gay marrige, they passed the TPP TPA or what ever the **** its called, This has me very worried these assholes are going to give Obama some sort of new gun control laws.
    These dipshits dont realize we voted for them to STOP Obama not give whatever he demands
    ”Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people”
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeOtherGuy View Post
    nova, I agree. But this isn't the only or very first time. Maybe the Republic has been dead for years now? I think that historians 200+ years from now will probably look at 1988-2000 as the last years of the Republic, 2001-2010 (or so) as the start of empire, and 2011-onward (who knows) as fully imperial. We still have the window dressing of a Constitutional republic, but that's not how things function today.
    Sounds about right...... "I've abandoned free market principals to save the free market system" Bush 2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by brickboy240 View Post
    No kidding. I have my supplies and ammo...let's get this American crash over with while I am still young enough to help in the recovery!

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    I'm afraid that in 2017 or 2018 we could be shooting at each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex V View Post
    So when will we begin to follow the words of Thomas Jefferson and begin refreshing the Tree of Liberty?
    I don't know, but it needs to happen damn fast, Congress isn't going to do anything, neither is the Supreme court, So, I guess that only leaves us, the few citizens who still give a shit.
    There's a race of men who don't fit in, A race that can't stay still, So, they break the hearts of kith and kin, and roam the world at will..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillygunguy View Post
    Next they will side on gay marrige, they passed the TPP TPA or what ever the **** its called, This has me very worried these assholes are going to give Obama some sort of new gun control laws.
    These dipshits dont realize we voted for them to STOP Obama not give whatever he demands
    Of course they will. Just look at that Brannon (R) guy or whatever his name is from SC... Watch the YT vids of his interviews. So he's introducing a bill to take the flag down... fine. He's a smart guy right. got all the votes, he's in charge, the man with the plan, the go to guy......

    Now go listen to him speak on the Youtube vids. He is being asked dead easy questions... just no brainer stuff and his mind is already made up.... listen to how poorly he answers. Gotta keep that CYA going because he knows more 2A issues are coming next. "I should have done it long ago" ... he will eventually do the same for 2A. You can tell by his demeanor.

    It's not just SCOTUS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nova3930 View Post
    Rule of law is dead. R.I.P. 1776-2015
    It has been dead since at least 1973.

    How Tyranny Came to America
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    "Take abortion. Set aside your own views and feelings about it. Is it really possible that, as the Supreme Court in effect said, all the abortion laws of all 50 states — no matter how restrictive, no matter how permissive — had always been unconstitutional? Not only that, but no previous Court, no justice on any Court in all our history — not Marshall, not Story, not Taney, not Holmes, not Hughes, not Frankfurter, not even Warren — had ever been recorded as doubting the constitutionality of those laws. Everyone had always taken it for granted that the states had every right to enact them.

    Are we supposed to believe, in all seriousness, that the Court’s ruling in Roe v. Wade was a response to the text of the Constitution, the discernment of a meaning that had eluded all its predecessors, rather than an enactment of the current liberal agenda? Come now.



    ...It gets crazier. In 1993 the Court handed down one of the most bizarre decisions of all time. For two decades, enemies of legal abortion had been supporting Republican candidates in the hope of filling the Court with appointees who would review Roe v. Wade. In Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the Court finally did so. But even with eight Republican appointees on the Court, the result was not what the conservatives had hoped for. The Court reaffirmed Roe.

    Its reasoning was amazing. A plurality opinion — a majority of the five-justice majority in the case — admitted that the Court’s previous ruling in Roe might be logically and historically vulnerable. But it held that the paramount consideration was that the Court be consistent, and not appear to be yielding to public pressure, lest it lose the respect of the public. Therefore the Court allowed Roe to stand.

    Among many things that might be said about this ruling, the most basic is this: The Court in effect declared itself a third party to the controversy, and then, setting aside the merits of the two principals’ claims, ruled in its own interest! It was as if the referee in a prizefight had declared himself the winner. Cynics had always suspected that the Court did not forget its self-interest in its decisions, but they never expected to hear it say so.

    The three justices who signed that opinion evidently didn’t realize what they were saying. A distinguished veteran Court-watcher (who approved of Roe, by the way) told me he had never seen anything like it. The Court was actually telling us that it put its own welfare ahead of the merits of the arguments before it. In its confusion, it was blurting out the truth.

    But by then very few Americans could even remember the original constitutional plan. The original plan was as Madison and Tocqueville described it: State government was to be the rule, federal government the exception. The states’ powers were to be “numerous and indefinite,” federal powers “few and defined.” This is a matter not only of history, but of iron logic: the Constitution doesn’t make sense when read any other way. As Madison asked, why bother listing particular federal powers unless unlisted powers are withheld?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph View Post
    I don't know, but it needs to happen damn fast, Congress isn't going to do anything, neither is the Supreme court, So, I guess that only leaves us, the few citizens who still give a shit.
    We give a shit, true. We may even give many shots. But will we give up our "comfortable" lives to fight for our rights? I doubt it. Its like the frog being placed into boiling water vs cold water and being slowly boiled.

    Ugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauser KAR98K View Post
    I'm afraid that in 2017 or 2018 we could be shooting at each other.
    Time to revisit the m4c patch thread it seems
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    I still say the Court rules the way it does because certain members have been threatened with disclosure of what the NSA has on them if they don't vote with the administration.

    We are just lucky they affirmed the individual right to keep and bear arms. The NSA must not have had enough on key members to use against them when that ruling was made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    Time to revisit the m4c patch thread it seems
    Amen. We need an IFF method lol
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