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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlander Systems View Post
    If we actually get a True, Die-Hard Pro-Liberty president in the White House, I can go to my grave in peace. Ain't never gonna happen.

    I've been berated for "wasting my vote". If we had McCain right now, this country wouldn't look much different than it does.

    The GOP needs to quit pissing on our backs and telling us it's raining.
    I would certainly agree with you on that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlander Systems View Post
    If we actually get a True, Die-Hard Pro-Liberty president in the White House, I can go to my grave in peace. Ain't never gonna happen.

    I've been berated for "wasting my vote". If we had McCain right now, this country wouldn't look much different than it does.

    The GOP needs to quit pissing on our backs and telling us it's raining.
    That will never happen,Like the Democrats, the GOP is part of the problem, they rolled over plain and simple, At this point I'm struggling to see why I should even vote anymore. The FSA vastly outnumbers us, and they know they hold the keys to the treasury, and will continue to reward themselves. And the GOP does nothing. The president wants to be made king via the TPP, and they hand him the crown. They know the gig is up. They're going to stab us in the back one more time, when they pass the TPP and the TATP. At some point, upwards of 20million illegals will be given citizenship via the TPP. Then, we can look forward to endless Democrat/Communist rule, at least until the money runs out. and then, like any other group of parasites, the illegals will leave when the host is dead. As I see it, that might be our only chance to right things..
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    The Republicans have a very good chance of winning in 2016 if they do things right. While the media makes things seem horrible, most people not in academia or the media are fed up with this bullshit. However, they keep making the same mistakes and show no signs of changing their ways. But what they need to stop doing if they want to win the White House next year:

    1) Stop trying to nominate caricatures of what they think the people want. That's how the Democrats beat themselves in 2004: They got themselves a caricature of what they thought the public would vote for. 9/11 was still fresh in everyone's mind, we were involved in two wars, and the American serviceman was the hero of the day. They nominated the only guy with some combat experience and decorations who was liberal enough for their tastes and had him play up that he was an American warrior. The voters didn't buy it, and Bush was reelected. Fast forward to 2012. The economy is in the shitter and nobody has a job. What does the GOP do? The same thing the Democrats did in 2004: Nominate a caricature. They picked a guy who kept saying over and over that he is a "businessman" and knows money and thus, knows how to fix the economy. What happened? Same thing. Now the base of the GOP is anti-politician, anti-tax, and strongly desiring to recapture the American dream of success being the reward of hard work. So what are they talking about doing? Nominating rich people who supposedly have rags-to-riches stories and no time spent in politics. Instead of nominating supposed representations of what America wants, why not just nominate a guy who is going to get the government off our back and let us live our lives?

    2) Stop thinking that the answer to big government is big business. As I just said, 3 of the leading nominees are rich people with no political experience. The problem is, if there's anything that the American people hate more than huge bureaucracy, it's huge corporations. Many people, myself included, don't see corporations as the lesser of two evils; I see them as the equal of two evils. They are large, incompetent, often psychopathic organizations that often use slave labor and think nothing of destroying the environment to make a dime...basically the same thing as a government, but without nukes (as far was we know). Why would anyone want Herman Cain, Carly Fiorina, Mitt Romney, Donald Trump, etc? They are the people that America blames for the crappy economy.

    3) Stop nominating people that they think are going to steal votes from the left. You can't; they're too ignorant and evil to vote against the Democrats. If Hitler ran on the D ticket with Genghis Khan as his VP, he'd receive universal support from the media and academia simply for being a Democrat. That's just a fact. Enough trying to steal votes. Pick someone who will mobilize and excite your base. That's what the Democrats do and it works for them. At the end of the day, your average American simply wants someone who is going to let him keep most of his money and who is going to leave him alone.
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    If Genghis Khan ran for president of the US, I'd vote for him.

    F___er knows how to get shit done. And does't come with the genocidal, racist, ignorant baggage that Hitler does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post

    3) Stop nominating people that they think are going to steal votes from the left. You can't; they're too ignorant and evil to vote against the Democrats. If Hitler ran on the D ticket with Genghis Khan as his VP, he'd receive universal support from the media and academia simply for being a Democrat. That's just a fact. Enough trying to steal votes. Pick someone who will mobilize and excite your base. That's what the Democrats do and it works for them. At the end of the day, your average American simply wants someone who is going to let him keep most of his money and who is going to leave him alone.
    Saved me some typing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    The Republicans have a very good chance of winning in 2016 if they do things right. While the media makes things seem horrible, most people not in academia or the media are fed up with this bullshit. However, they keep making the same mistakes and show no signs of changing their ways. But what they need to stop doing if they want to win the White House next year:

    1) Stop trying to nominate caricatures of what they think the people want.

    2) Stop thinking that the answer to big government is big business. As I just said, 3 of the leading nominees are rich people with no political experience. The problem is, if there's anything that the American people hate more than huge bureaucracy, it's huge corporations.

    3) Pick someone who will mobilize and excite your base.
    I agree, but a little disagreement on #2.

    I try very hard to vote for folks with 'normal experience.' I trend towards voting for veterans, and folks who had been successful on their own merits, not taking Daddy's fortune and doing something with it, but actually scraping and scrapping to get it done.

    Absent superb performance that shows selfless service, I won't vote for folks who have spent their entire post college career in government and made a career of governing.

    What we need are guys in their early to mid-40's, respected by their communities because they are hardworking and forward thinking, who have shown the ability to look a solutions not some dogma, who are willing, and able to take a break for the good of the Nation, not themselves, who hate Washington, can't wait to get their service done and return back to their passion.

    Those are guys who would embrace term limits and spit in lobbyist's faces. They are Americans, not the Politboro, and there are damned few of them in the Legislative Branch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    The Republicans have a very good chance of winning in 2016 if they do things right. While the media makes things seem horrible, most people not in academia or the media are fed up with this bullshit. However, they keep making the same mistakes and show no signs of changing their ways. But what they need to stop doing if they want to win the White House next year:

    1) Stop trying to nominate caricatures of what they think the people want. That's how the Democrats beat themselves in 2004: They got themselves a caricature of what they thought the public would vote for. 9/11 was still fresh in everyone's mind, we were involved in two wars, and the American serviceman was the hero of the day. They nominated the only guy with some combat experience and decorations who was liberal enough for their tastes and had him play up that he was an American warrior. The voters didn't buy it, and Bush was reelected. Fast forward to 2012. The economy is in the shitter and nobody has a job. What does the GOP do? The same thing the Democrats did in 2004: Nominate a caricature. They picked a guy who kept saying over and over that he is a "businessman" and knows money and thus, knows how to fix the economy. What happened? Same thing. Now the base of the GOP is anti-politician, anti-tax, and strongly desiring to recapture the American dream of success being the reward of hard work. So what are they talking about doing? Nominating rich people who supposedly have rags-to-riches stories and no time spent in politics. Instead of nominating supposed representations of what America wants, why not just nominate a guy who is going to get the government off our back and let us live our lives?

    2) Stop thinking that the answer to big government is big business. As I just said, 3 of the leading nominees are rich people with no political experience. The problem is, if there's anything that the American people hate more than huge bureaucracy, it's huge corporations. Many people, myself included, don't see corporations as the lesser of two evils; I see them as the equal of two evils. They are large, incompetent, often psychopathic organizations that often use slave labor and think nothing of destroying the environment to make a dime...basically the same thing as a government, but without nukes (as far was we know). Why would anyone want Herman Cain, Carly Fiorina, Mitt Romney, Donald Trump, etc? They are the people that America blames for the crappy economy.

    3) Stop nominating people that they think are going to steal votes from the left. You can't; they're too ignorant and evil to vote against the Democrats. If Hitler ran on the D ticket with Genghis Khan as his VP, he'd receive universal support from the media and academia simply for being a Democrat. That's just a fact. Enough trying to steal votes. Pick someone who will mobilize and excite your base. That's what the Democrats do and it works for them. At the end of the day, your average American simply wants someone who is going to let him keep most of his money and who is going to leave him alone.

    The last sentence of #3, would probably be enough if that person ran on that alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph View Post
    The last sentence of #3, would probably be enough if that person ran on that alone.
    Except that your "average American" is on the dole in some way (EITC, SSI, Obama Care subsidies, welfare, food stamps, etc.) and will never vote to stop that. Figures I've seen put it at around 50%+.....that spells impending disaster.
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    As soon as Chauncey announces, that's who I'm voting for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Except that your "average American" is on the dole in some way (EITC, SSI, Obama Care subsidies, welfare, food stamps, etc.) and will never vote to stop that. Figures I've seen put it at around 50%+.....that spells impending disaster.
    Milton Friedman had some excellent presentations about how it isn't the lower 50+% that is the problem as much as it is a selection of the elites that, in the name of the poor, rob the middle and upper classes. Think welfare infrastructure and all the govt jobs involved and Reagan's 64 speech where he pointed out that we spend enough on welfare to take everyone out of poverty- but somehow it never gets there. Friedman also talks about how much money goes to middle class people, but that they never think that they are getting their fair share back- I think of it as going out drinking on a joint tab and there is never enough money to cover the tab- everyone thinks that they are giving more and getting less than they actually are. (I would like to point out that even right after college, even though my close friends and I didn't make real money, we always had extra in the pot to cover the bill so that we would let it roll and it eventually paid for our breakfast.)
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