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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph View Post
    Very true.. You know I use to think people like Alex Jones were a little off the wall, and to some extent he may be, But he's been spot on about these "trade partnerships"
    The sad thing is that many here fail to see the light of day.


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    There's a lot of stuff I thought was bull crap that I'm now seeing is really the goal. It's sick.

    Last 4 days have been eye opening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    This is the price we the people pay for stupidity, laziness and arrogance.

    Try to have a discussion and it's "conspiracy crap!"

    Welcome to "tomorrow". Today. Now own it...


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    Amen. Some people will never figure it out until its too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    There's a lot of stuff I thought was bull crap that I'm now seeing is really the goal. It's sick.

    Last 4 days have been eye opening.
    Glad that you are awakening and strong enough to acknowledge past lack of awareness.

    The last four days have been a whirlwind and I am disappointed with how poorly we the people are doing.

    Recommendation: study the Constitution, BoR and the Constitutional Debates alongside current events. We HAVE to win.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    This is the price we the people pay for stupidity, laziness and arrogance.

    Try to have a discussion and it's "conspiracy crap!"

    Welcome to "tomorrow". Today. Now own it...


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    So true. And don't forget about all of the people that would say time to break out the tinfoil hat.

    Well unfortunately I guess we proved them all wrong........it is a conspiracy. And it is working.
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    I haven't "proofed" this material, but it seems likely to me.


    http://www.opednews.com/articles/Alm...50620-523.html

    Many think our government is for sale. However, by taking a look at the facts below provided by the Open Secrets, it is easy to understand where they are coming from. Looking back at Friday the 12th, the House voted on Trade Promotion Authority (TPA), the controversial bill that gives power to the executive branch to negotiate treaties. TPA limit's Congress' ability to better a trade deal by subjecting members of Congress to 90 days of reviewing the trade agreement, prohibiting any amendments on the implementing legislation, and giving them an up or down vote. TPA passed with a mere 219-211 vote with only 218 needed to pass. The real shocker comes from the amount of money each Representative received for a yes vote. In total, $197,869,145 was given to Representatives for a yes vote where as $23,065,231 was given in opposition.

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    If true, think anyone will investigate it.....hell no. Is the FBI going to be told to look into it. I think not. It is a loose - loose for the nation.
    In no way do I make any money from anyone related to the firearms industry.


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    Where's wikileaks and anonymous with a data dump when you need them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    The sad thing is that many here fail to see the light of day.
    I wouldn't start your psychic hotline just yet.

    There are, and always have been, numerous divergent agendas each with their own hidden goals that could be called "conspiracy." This predates the Rothchild banking empire.

    The ONLY thing that has really changed is people in large enough numbers were dumb enough to elect a novelty President so that they could be part of "a moment in history" and be able to say "I was there...I was part of it" in some sad resurrected Woodstock mentality.

    And this President was from the start groomed to attempt many of those "agendas" and they were presented in such a way that people thought they were a good idea. Nearly everyone who voted for Obamacare actually thought it would be FREE and just come out of some imaginary "tax the rich" surplus.

    Same way the Patriot Act, which actually stripped rights from Americans, was sold as a way to "protect FREEDOM." Just another agenda sold under false pretenses to a gullible populace who didn't even demand their representatives understand, let alone read, legislation before voting on it.

    This week hasn't been a Machiavellian conspiracy orchestrated by some Illuminati group. What we are seeing is nothing more than huge numbers of IDIOTS controlling popular culture and making significant changes just as a bunch of hippies did in the 1960s for no other reason than they actually had the numbers.

    No different than the religious right taking control during part of the 80s when they had popular support and a sympathetic President.

    We are seeing the America, that people who think Bruce Jenner is a brave hero, have brought about. We are seeing the America, that has been made less than we were by things like NAFTA, change from a nation that produces to a free shit army that reproduces.

    Politicians are simply catering to that new America in the way that benefits them the most in terms of money and power. I wouldn't exactly call that a conspiracy. And not very long ago, this all would have been tin foil hat nonsense, but we were foolish enough to put the wrong people in place, foolish enough to fall for their lies and propaganda and here we are.

    I actually WISH it was a carefully developed and brilliantly executed conspiracy. That would mean it wasn't our fault. Sadly, it's our fault. Maybe not the people on this forum specifically, but the majority of the country who voted for all this crap.
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    Thanks to TPP, gun & ammo imports may be banned

    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    So true. And don't forget about all of the people that would say time to break out the tinfoil hat.

    Well unfortunately I guess we proved them all wrong........it is a conspiracy. And it is working.
    I agree.

    They won't. Or, more accurately, precious few will. The rear will proscribe it all as some "random events" that just so happen to lead us CONSISTENTLY to abject poverty, servitude, wars and loss of sovereignty.

    F 'em. It's staring them in the face and they see it not.


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