Activist takes down SC Confederate flag

[SteyrAUG]

If it makes you guys feel any better, four black churches were torched last week.

(Investigation has found arson to be the cause in three of the fires, the fourth is still under investigation.)

Why would that make any of us feel better? Wonder how many were Reichstag fires?

[SOW_0331]

Typical leftists, "Freedom of Speech only applies to us and our causes".

This is the definition of irony.

[SOW_0331]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us...reat.html?_r=0

“There’s an acceptance now of the idea that the threat from jihadi terrorism in the United States has been overblown,” Dr. Horgan said. “And there’s a belief that the threat of right-wing, antigovernment violence has been underestimated.”

Counting terrorism cases is a subjective enterprise, relying on shifting definitions and judgment calls.

You don't honestly think with crap like this being published, nothing is going to happen?

While I don't agree with their point specifically, the quoted portion isn't untrue. Post-9/11, racist and extreme right-wing fueled attacks have killed more in the US than terrorism, albeit ones and twos instead of mass attacks. Though the same could be said about far left groups.

What's true is that you can't really do much to prevent these sorts of violence while preserving freedom, which we've all known for a while, and is why it's remained "understated". What I don't understand is how anyone thinks the same can't be true about Islamic extremism. Maybe it's just that much easier to take away freedom from others than allow yourself to face the same treatment, regardless of the results.

[jpmuscle]

Could someone amend the spelling in the thread title perhaps?

[Averageman]

Why would that make any of us feel better? Wonder how many were Reichstag fires?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ngle-week.html
SIX black churches stretching from Georgia to Ohio are burned down in seven days: Fears of tide of 'racist' violence as three are confirmed as arson


A string of black churches have been ravaged by fire in the past week, in what could potentially be a string of racially-motivated arson attacks.

Places of worship in Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Ohio were ravaged by flames this week.

Authorities have confirmed that three of the attacks were arson, while investigations are still underway for the remaining two.

The attacks come as national attention centers on racial divisions in the wake of the church massacre in Charleston, South Carolina, where nine people were gunned down by Dylann Roof.

I don't know if anyone will look at the Reichstag angle or not. I do feel whomever is doing it is only stirring the pot further and pushing for a fight.
This isn't going to end well for anyone.

[cinco]

Why would that make any of us feel better? Wonder how many were Reichstag fires?

I don't know if anyone will look at the Reichstag angle or not. I do feel whomever is doing it is only stirring the pot further and pushing for a fight.
This isn't going to end well for anyone.

Also wonder how long till some sort of "Mississippi Burning" situation where a group of "progressive reformers" are murdered by a "known right wing" group? Thus, prompting more massive .gov application of power at a local law enforcement level.

I find it interesting how this summer seems to be following the same pattern as the "Freedom Summer" right before the election year of 1964. The year of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and implementation of the Dems "Great Society" programs - which in my opinion have been a horrible failure for the populace, but the foundation upon which the Dems have built their power structure.

Mississippi Burning - When a group of civil rights workers goes missing in a small Mississippi town, FBI agents Alan Ward (Willem Dafoe) and Rupert Anderson (Gene Hackman) are sent in to investigate. Local authorities refuse to cooperate with them, and the African American community is afraid to, precipitating a clash between the two agents over strategy. As the situation becomes more volatile, the direct approach is abandoned in favor of more aggressive, hard-line tactics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Summer

Freedom Summer (also known as the Mississippi Summer Project) was a campaign in the United States launched in June 1964 to attempt to register as many African-American voters as possible in Mississippi, which had historically excluded most blacks from voting.

Over the course of the ten-week project:[9]
1,062 people were arrested (out-of-state volunteers and locals)
80 Freedom Summer workers were beaten
37 churches were bombed or burned
30 Black homes or businesses were bombed or burned
4 civil rights workers were killed (one in a head-on collision)
4 people were critically wounded
At least 3 Mississippi blacks were murdered because of their support for the Civil Rights Movement

[Averageman]

While I don't agree with their point specifically, the quoted portion isn't untrue. Post-9/11, racist and extreme right-wing fueled attacks have killed more in the US than terrorism, albeit ones and twos instead of mass attacks. Though the same could be said about far left groups.

What's true is that you can't really do much to prevent these sorts of violence while preserving freedom, which we've all known for a while, and is why it's remained "understated". What I don't understand is how anyone thinks the same can't be true about Islamic extremism. Maybe it's just that much easier to take away freedom from others than allow yourself to face the same treatment, regardless of the results.

Well I am kind of wondering.
If you can call Maj Hassan's Fort Hood shooting workplace violence instead of terror, just how were these things investigated and categorized?
There's a lot of hate out there and some folks I believe are not beyond using it to their advantage. The agenda on both sides feeds on this crap and I have no doubt that there will be a point made of it.
I am sitting here where the deep South meets the West and for the most part everybody seems to get along. I would like to think it will continue, but I'm beginning to have my doubts.

[jc000]

Post-9/11, racist and extreme right-wing fueled attacks have killed more in the US than terrorism, albeit ones and twos instead of mass attacks.

I'd like to see data supporting this, otherwise calling BS.

[Ick]

Post-9/11, racist and extreme right-wing fueled attacks have killed more in the US than terrorism, albeit ones and twos instead of mass attacks. Though the same could be said about far left groups.

I'd like to see data supporting this, otherwise calling BS.

Agreed.

[tb-av]

Could someone amend the spelling in the thread title perhaps?

You don't know how many times I looked at that and thought... something doesn't look right.... oops, I mean correct.

For the record... www.atavist.com ( you knew there had to be one ) did NOT take down the flag and my apology to them for the typo / confusion.