M-3X?

[WS6]

How durable is the M-3X? How do they stack up for "longer" range outdoor use when compared to the latest LED's like the Procyon and the X300?

[Failure2Stop]

The M3X is best suited for the same distances at which the X300 is suited. Given that, the X300 is a tougher, more robust light than the M3X.

At longer distances and in transitional lighting the increase of lumens becomes almost exponential. It really depends on what you need it for. If you are trying to see what is going on in a dark room while you are outside in daylight you will need serious light. If you are trying to see an animal at 100 yards well enough for humane shot placement you will need more than what the M3X will provide, though it is dependant on optic as well.

Either way, high lumen LED light is great for close range, indoor stuff, but is lacking when it comes to long distance/fog/smoke etc.

High lumen incan is great for cutting through some of that, but can be excessive when indoors.

Just my experience.

[WS6]

The M3X is best suited for the same distances at which the X300 is suited. Given that, the X300 is a tougher, more robust light than the M3X.

At longer distances and in transitional lighting the increase of lumens becomes almost exponential. It really depends on what you need it for. If you are trying to see what is going on in a dark room while you are outside in daylight you will need serious light. If you are trying to see an animal at 100 yards well enough for humane shot placement you will need more than what the M3X will provide, though it is dependant on optic as well.

Either way, high lumen LED light is great for close range, indoor stuff, but is lacking when it comes to long distance/fog/smoke etc.

High lumen incan is great for cutting through some of that, but can be excessive when indoors.

Just my experience.

THe light is going on an iron-sighted 20" outdoor intended weapon. Hogs/coyotes would be the main use for the light.

[Failure2Stop]

I do not have experience using iron sights for hog/yote hunting with white light. So take my advice with a few tablespoons of salt-
I would want as much light as I could comfortably push. Probably something in the 200+ lumen range, incandescent.
I am only basing this off of what I have seen when using different lights at different distances on brush backgrounds. I think that your range for a humane kill will be severly limited by the use of iron sights at night, but that's just me and you may be quite adept at such application.

[WS6]

I do not have experience using iron sights for hog/yote hunting with white light. So take my advice with a few tablespoons of salt-
I would want as much light as I could comfortably push. Probably something in the 200+ lumen range, incandescent.
I am only basing this off of what I have seen when using different lights at different distances on brush backgrounds. I think that your range for a humane kill will be severly limited by the use of iron sights at night, but that's just me and you may be quite adept at such application.

I am pretty good at shooting at night, NTCH helps A LOT! I usually do not do NTCH, but at night it is a must or you will never get the post in the rear aperature.

I am just interested to know which will light up the farthest/best at night, the M3X or the Procyon.

[Failure2Stop]

I have shot quite a bit with irons during training at human silhouettes with different illumination sources. Accuracy is distinctly effected in most shooters. I am not dismissing your chosen method, though it is not that path that I would view as optimal.

If your only choices are the M3X or a comparable LED I would advocate the M3X only because it is incan. Bring lotsa batteries.

With the light/sight combination your max eff range will probably be somewhere between 25 and 50 yards.

[WS6]

I have shot quite a bit with irons during training at human silhouettes with different illumination sources. Accuracy is distinctly effected in most shooters. I am not dismissing your chosen method, though it is not that path that I would view as optimal.

If your only choices are the M3X or a comparable LED I would advocate the M3X only because it is incan. Bring lotsa batteries.

With the light/sight combination your max eff range will probably be somewhere between 25 and 50 yards.

I agree it is not optimal, but this is not a dedicated night-time weapon. I only want the capability for vermin (hogs, coyotes, and the like). If it gets used when the elephant comes trumpeting, I doubt it will be past 5 yards.

[WS6]

I have shot quite a bit with irons during training at human silhouettes with different illumination sources. Accuracy is distinctly effected in most shooters. I am not dismissing your chosen method, though it is not that path that I would view as optimal.

If your only choices are the M3X or a comparable LED I would advocate the M3X only because it is incan. Bring lotsa batteries.

With the light/sight combination your max eff range will probably be somewhere between 25 and 50 yards.

Tonight we will find out, my TDI mount and red-filter arrive. I will see how far out I can go and still hit the target. I know in daytime I can get 1-1.5" groups at 30 yards pretty consistantly. At 100 yards I can get 2-4" groups using good ammo. I will see what I can do at night.

[Failure2Stop]

It's not so much of a grouping issue as it is a shot placement issue. Then again, as I said before, if you are comfortable with your caipability- rock on.

FWIW- the red filter is going to limit your useful light. The benefit to low intensity red-light is for night-adapted eyes to keep their night-adaption.

[WS6]

It's not so much of a grouping issue as it is a shot placement issue. Then again, as I said before, if you are comfortable with your caipability- rock on.

FWIW- the red filter is going to limit your useful light. The benefit to low intensity red-light is for night-adapted eyes to keep their night-adaption.

Yeah, picking up the FSP against a furry critter of dark coloration WILL be tough. Yes, I am aware of the red light limiting my range. I just don't know how much. I will find out tonight.

IS there any way to beef up the M-3X, like a Turbohead or something?