Now It's Gotten Serious..Rebel Flag Bikini's Banned....

[Caeser25]

Uh, no.

Hitler wasn't a big fan of Marx.

Stalin was shocked because he thought he had a few more years.

It isn't as simple as leftcvsxright. There's also the north and south on the compass to include authoritarian and libertarian. All Europe has is socialists so its easier to put them in a left-right paradigm.

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[Belloc]

Thanks for the correction guys.....I always think of the Nazi's as being right of the communists.

Again, one can certainly very legitimately consider the Nazis as being "to the right" of the Communists, just like one can consider the presidency of Bill Clinton to the right of Obama's presidency, but both are still without question diehard leftists.

It makes you wonder how far we are away from a Left wing revolution? Kalifornia is already there as a State, most of the large urban areas are there also. (NY - Boston - Chicago - SF - LA - Seattle)

Posted before, but worth the read.

No Truce With the Left
http://sultanknish.blogspot.co.at/20...with-left.html

"The left will destroy the things you care about, because you care about them. It will destroy them because that gives them power over you. It will destroy them because these things stand in the way of its power. It will destroy them because a good deal of its militant activists need things to destroy and if they can't attack you, they'll turn on the left in a frenzy of ideologically incestuous purges."

[HKGuns]

Again, one can certainly very legitimately consider the Nazis as being "to the right" of the Communists, just like one can consider the presidency of Bill Clinton to the right of Obama's presidency, but both are still without question diehard leftists.

Posted before, but worth the read.

Let it go....I thanked you for the correction, now you're just being pedantic.

[Belloc]

Let it go....I thanked you for the correction, now you're just being pedantic.

Perhaps you're right. Still, better than being petulant.

[jpmuscle]

Can't we atleast all agree that this sh*t is stupid?

[Scoby]

You knew the current owner of the original General Lee is painting over the rebel flag on the roof and replacing it with a US flag didn't you?

This is all so bizarre to me, it's amazing how easy it is to declare something a "symbol of hate" and have it enforced and supported. From time to time I wear a shirt with a Buddhist swastika. It's yellow on black with chinese characters under it so it doesn't immediately invoke the nazi symbol. I've had some looks, even a few questions from elderly people most of whom I presume to be jewish and who are content with the explanation, but as it stands right now, I think wearing a rebel flag patch is being declared the equivalent of wearing a NSDAP armband.

I'm not especially sympathetic to the redneck south, generally they drive me crazy with their stupid ass oversize pickup tricks, shitty music and willingness to rev anything with an engine in their driveway for up to 4 hours. But in places where those stupid trucks with their rebel flag plates and paint schemes are predominant, I've never seen anyone hassle anyone for being black and I've seen more than a few instances of people coming to the defense of black people attending the "chili cookoff" or whatever is going on when it looked like somebody was being hassled.

And I've only been to South Carolina a few times, to me I think I could best describe most of the people I met as "the most polite people I've ever encountered" and that is regardless of race. Somehow I must have missed all of the idiots when I was there.

Thanks Steyr for the kind words. I too believe that we are a polite and gentile people for the most part.

I’d also like to give a hand to our black South Carolinians for their restraint in not inciting any type of violence in the wake of the shooting of Walter Scott and the Emanuel 9 and the forethought to tell Al Sharpton to stay home. It’s quite possible that if these incidents had happened in any of the larger urban areas in the south such as Atlanta, Jacksonville or Birmingham, the reaction to these crimes could have been much different.

What really disappoints me though is the political pandering of our governor Nikki Haley by calling for the removal of the battle flag from the state house grounds because a deranged young man decided to take the lives of nine innocent black people and a photograph surfaced showing him having the flag patch on his jacket. How ridiculous. There are multitudes more people that wear that symbol that don’t commit crimes of any type than there are that do.

Her actions started a wave of political correctness from politicians and corporations in regard to the battle flag.
Shame on you Nikki for pandering to a group of people in order to garner their vote. You are doing nothing but helping to perpetuate political correctness across this country and one of the causes of the divisive environment that we are experiencing today.

I am so damn sick of all the continuously offended people in this country.

[Trajan]

I think you read a bit more into my sentence than intended.

I didn't intend to suggest anything was a "sole contributor" to the creation of the NSDAP. As with many political movements it had many origins and often formed in ways unintended by the creators (just ask Trotsky how he felt about Stalinism).

That was a difference in ideology. World revolution vs Socialism in one state. Trotskites or Revisionist Marxists are the true Marxists in my eyes.

1. The NSDAP was created out of the Freikorp movemnent as they served as the founding members of the German Workers Party which then became the National Socialists German Workers Party.

Created out of that environment, and many of its members joined the NSDAP and the SA, yes. The NSDAP is not, however, a continuation of the Freikorp.

2. Key members of the founding group, such as Joseph Goebbels and Ernst Rohm were true socialists and supported a socialist revolution based upon anti capitalist ideas.

One can be anti-Capitalist and Anti-Socialist. "The Third Way". Also remember that Goebbels almost left the party after Hitler remarked that socialism was a "Jewish system of exploitation".

3. In the struggle for power in the Wiemar Republic and Reichstag, the German Communist Party was the only other political party that posed a genuine threat to the NSDAP. This contest for power is the primary reason the NSDAP had an anti communist agenda. The fact that the two groups had several political similarities was irrelevant as each was seeking political power.

Nope. The Social Democrats were.

One would have to be a "big fan" of Marx to be, well, a Marxist, not a socialist leftist.

National socialism (the Nazis) and international socialism, (the Communists) were simply rival competing leftist ideologies, with one being more left than the other.

The reasons the Nazis are erroneously labeled "right wing" are because it is in fact the left that is doing the labeling, trying to distance themselves from their discredited ideological kin, and because while the Nazis were not right wing, it can certainly be argued that they were ideologically to the "right" of marxism.

"Socialist leftist"? lol

T

This is accurate - the other analyses of left and right were colored by media propaganda. My BA is in modern European history...

Where did you get your degree from? Surely you know that anyone who doesn't support the Monarchy, church, and aristocracy is a "leftist", like our Founding Fathers.

But things change....

The left's strategy is clear - they are following a debt load collapse stratagem, bringing the entire system down. The problem is they won't necessarily control what comes after the collapse. A dictatorship, no doubt, but will we get Lenin or Ceasar?

And you don't even understand basic Marxism.

It isn't as simple as leftcvsxright. There's also the north and south on the compass to include authoritarian and libertarian.

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While I support these more modern political paradigms starting with Eysenck, there is no set standard like the old traditional left-right.

My only issue here is that the derpinternetandfacebookeducated-libertarians ignore reality and since they identify with the right, anything and everything they don't like is left wing or "leftist".

All Europe has is socialists so its easier to put them in a left-right paradigm.

Well that's enough GD for me today.

[Business_Casual]

I think you are just trying to stir things up. Just posting "you're wrong, na na na" isn't very helpful.

[Waylander]

My only issue here is that the derpinternetandfacebookeducated-libertarians ignore reality and since they identify with the right, anything and everything they don't like is left wing or "leftist".

Such the wordsmith.

Most of the Libertarians I know pretty much agree with Rand Paul, who can be at times far from "right-wing."

But I understand it is easy for the left to confuse conservative with right-wing.

[Belloc]

I think you are just trying to stir things up.

That's now pretty obvious.

Just posting "you're wrong, na na na" isn't very helpful.

But it is revealing.