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    The Larue is more of an A1 style with windage only, no elevation. It also eliminates the windage knob, using a recessed dial.

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    The difference in price between a LaRue and a Troy BUIS is not enough for me to not go for a Troy. The sight is bombproof and versatile...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MassMark View Post
    The difference in price between a LaRue and a Troy BUIS is not enough for me to not go for a Troy. The sight is bombproof and versatile...
    $50 is a pretty big difference if you don't need a flip sight, both are bombproof.
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    I'm quite aware the A2 is a combat sight. That doesn't mean it's a good combat sight. I'm not LEO or .mil, but have talked to friends in the service who have said the A2 does break and lose zero. More specifically I think it's too complex for use as a BUIS. In my opinion all firearms are range guns until used otherwise, how else do you train. These are my opinions and not the "gospel".



    Quote Originally Posted by AMMOTECH View Post
    The A2 is a combat sight.
    Most, if not all, guns on this site are "range guns". Think about it...

    I would not mind having an A1 type solid BUIS. I use a 50 yard zero so I don't mess with the drum on my A2 anyway.

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    The A2 carrying handle was my PRIMARY sight for some time during my first tour in Iraq after my M68 went down hard. I had a KAC BUIS on my weapon too, but removed it and just went back to the A2 carrying handle when I learned it could be months before I would get a new M68. I never once had a problem with it breaking or for that matter loosing zero even when it was getting the shit kicked out of it getting tossed around my vehicle, wrapped around a Haji's skull, or just generally abused the way a Grunt's rifle is. I never EVER adjusted the rear drum, not once in my whole career. I always zero'd the thing just the way the TM calls for, leaving it on 300/600 then adjusting my windage on the rear knob and elevation on my front site post.

    During daylight, in a good supported position, every shooter worth a shit can hit a man sized target at 200-250 yards in a couple seconds. This is the bread and butter of the Army Q course. Sure at night, out in the open on longer range shots it was a huge limitation not to have a RDS, but I got around it that's what tracers are for. In the dark, in a building I actually learned to love the Surefire/Irons combo and I got fast as hell with it. For daylight shooting CQB, Irons can be very fast (learn to shoot the "cross").

    The A2 is sure as hell a "combat proven" sight platform. Remember the first Mk18s had chopped carry handle A2 BUIS behind the M68 in a Wilcox or PRI mount. The Navy thought it worked pretty damn well and got LMT to make a "factory chopped carry handle" rear BUIS. I love having a RDS, and I love my TA33-8 ACOG even more, but when it comes down to it the Irons still work just fine, and the A2s are rugged enough for 99% of the shooters out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullitt5172 View Post
    $50 is a pretty big difference if you don't need a flip sight, both are bombproof.
    Agreed - but for me personally, the Troy sight is more versatile...

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    Quote Originally Posted by decodeddiesel View Post
    The A2 carrying handle was my PRIMARY sight for some time during my first tour in Iraq after my M68 went down hard. I had a KAC BUIS on my weapon too, but removed it and just went back to the A2 carrying handle when I learned it could be months before I would get a new M68. I never once had a problem with it breaking or for that matter loosing zero even when it was getting the shit kicked out of it getting tossed around my vehicle, wrapped around a Haji's scull, or just generally abused the way a Grunt's rifle is. I never EVER adjusted the rear drum, not once in my whole career. I always zero'd the thing just the way the TM calls for, leaving it on 300/600 then adjusting my windage on the rear knob and elevation on my front site post.

    During daylight, in a good supported position, every shooter worth a shit can hit a man sized target at 200-250 yards in a couple seconds. This is the bread and butter of the Army Q course. Sure at night, out in the open on longer range shots it was a huge limitation not to have a RDS, but I got around it that's what tracers are for. In the dark, in a building I actually learned to love the Surefire/Irons combo and I got fast as hell with it. For daylight shooting CQB, Irons can be very fast (learn to shoot the "cross").

    The A2 is sure as hell a "combat proven" sight platform. Remember the first Mk18s had chopped carry handle A2 BUIS behind the M68 in a Wilcox or PRI mount. The Navy thought it worked pretty damn well and got LMT to make a "factory chopped carry handle" rear BUIS. I love having a RDS, and I love my TA33-8 ACOG even more, but when it comes down to it the Irons still work just fine, and the A2s are rugged enough for 99% of the shooters out there.



    Thanks. That is the reason I have a cut carry handle. They work.

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    YHM's BUIS is reasonably priced and very solid.
    Jesus said, "I have come to cast fire upon the earth; and how I wish it were already kindled!" - Luke 12:49

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    How about the new Paul Howe sight? XS Systems stocks for under 50.00 IIRC.

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    I do like the LaRue BUIS, but this time it was about frugality. Aside from the huge knob on the side, this is now my favorite BUIS.


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