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Thread: Precision Armament EFAB vs. 'New' AFAB Hybrid Muzzle Brake???

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    Quote Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post
    I haven't shot the AFAB 5.56 (the new version). I have owned several A2's, PWS FSC556, AFAB mini, the Lantac dragon (a flame thrower depending on the ammo), and now the EFAB. I can't opine on the difference between the EFAB and new AFAB 5.56. However, I'd imagine the AFAB would be exactly what you're looking for. No guarantees though as I have no first hand experience with the new AFAB.

    Thanks for info ... I was hoping to get a reply from you as I read through your couple EFAB threads before posting this question.

    I am not sure th major difference between the original ATAB-Mini and the new one but since you had the AFAB-Mini and also the EFAB how do they compare?

    Would I see a benefit with my setup and needs in going EFAB over the AFAB?

    Seems the AFAB is meant more for 16"+ rigs like mine and EFAB more for SBR's.

    Just trying to see if there is any justification in spending the extra $40-50 is all.

    Thanks a million for all the help and replies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falconman515 View Post
    Thanks for info ... I was hoping to get a reply from you as I read through your couple EFAB threads before posting this question.

    I am not sure th major difference between the original ATAB-Mini and the new one but since you had the AFAB-Mini and also the EFAB how do they compare?

    Would I see a benefit with my setup and needs in going EFAB over the AFAB?

    Seems the AFAB is meant more for 16"+ rigs like mine and EFAB more for SBR's.

    Just trying to see if there is any justification in spending the extra $40-50 is all.

    Thanks a million for all the help and replies.
    The EFAB has slightly less blast, is more neutral (AFAB mini had slight muzzle dip in fast strings of fire on my Vltor A5 equipped gun, but not on any others), and creates less additional gas system pressure. The AFAB mini created higher BCG velocities, as do virtually all brakes/comps that have an expansion chamber (battlecomp, dynacomp, Griffin M4SD II, etc.), while the EFAB created no discernible increase in gas system pressure.

    Honestly, I think the AFAB 5.56 is right for you. I don't think you'll benefit from the more expensive EFAB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post
    it's the first muzzle device to have equal or less flash than an A2 (less on an SBR)
    Then this thread is moot as the OP lives in California and cannot use a flash hider.
    Why do the loudest do the least?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    Then this thread is moot as the OP lives in California and cannot use a flash hider.
    The ATF has not ruled it as a flash hider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post
    The ATF has not ruled it as a flash hider.
    And that's great! Until they do, then you're out $160...unless you're the test case.

    http://precisionarmament.com/product...-muzzle-brake/

    Combines superior muzzle control with effective flash suppression even on barrels as short as 10 inches.
    I mean, hell, the name of the product is the "Enhanced Flash Arresting Brake" and with adverts such as this:



    I can't imagine it being a very safe choice for those in unfriendly states.

    Additionally, California has a state law regarding flash suppressors and the ATF's opinion means diddly.
    Why do the loudest do the least?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    Then this thread is moot as the OP lives in California and cannot use a flash hider.
    Horseshit. Do you think CA ARs can't have pistol grips too?


    Quote Originally Posted by Adrenaline_6 View Post
    Did you see the shootout results?

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...ke-shootout-2/

    The winner (Precision Armament M4-72) of the shootout report says it doesn't really create too obnoxious of a concussion, unlike most. Plus it will save you even more money @$90.
    Trust me, those are NOT fun to be next to. I bought one for my friend for his birthday since he wanted a brake.
    Last edited by Plasman; 07-20-15 at 19:43.

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    I have no problem in buying this ... I hate this place with a purple passion but this type of brake will be just fine to use in CA.

    I have confirmed with Precision Armament the model numbers on these as well ... I wanted to make sure when I ordered it from Brownells I got the "new" AFAB and not the old.

    The part# on Brownells site is correct but the title and description still says AFAB-Mini and has old reviews etc.

    The old AFAB Mini is A04422
    The new AFAB os A04424

    I think I have decided to go with the AFAB for my set-up and needs ... like Buford said the extra price is really not gonna be worth it .,.. the AFAB should give me just about everything I'm looking for.

    Just wish I did not have to use and buy these damn Accu-washers from PA .... I really do not want to spend $25 more you know.

    But I guess to find the correct size for my BCM ELW 16" barrel I need to buy the kit and find out which one fits.

    Any info on how these accu-washers work and also how hard the install is???

    I am 100% new to brakes and have never installed them or anything ... the accu-washer talk about degrees and indexing and I have ZERO clue what any of that mean.

    Any help and suggestions on all of this and install would be greatly appreciated.
    Current Arms:
    - BCM 16" ELW w/13" KMR on Spikes Lower AR-15
    - Arsenal Bulgarian SAM7R AK47
    - CZ Shadow 2
    - CZ P-10c FDE
    - CZ EVO 3 Carbine FDE
    - Smith & Wesson M&P9 Shield
    - Sig P365
    - Walther Arms PPQ M2 9mm
    - Ruger Precision Rifle .308
    - Beretta A300 Outlander 12G Shotgun
    - And other stuff I can't talk about

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    Quote Originally Posted by falconman515 View Post
    I have no problem in buying this ... I hate this place with a purple passion but this type of brake will be just fine to use in CA.

    I have confirmed with Precision Armament the model numbers on these as well ... I wanted to make sure when I ordered it from Brownells I got the "new" AFAB and not the old.

    The part# on Brownells site is correct but the title and description still says AFAB-Mini and has old reviews etc.

    The old AFAB Mini is A04422
    The new AFAB os A04424

    I think I have decided to go with the AFAB for my set-up and needs ... like Buford said the extra price is really not gonna be worth it .,.. the AFAB should give me just about everything I'm looking for.

    Just wish I did not have to use and buy these damn Accu-washers from PA .... I really do not want to spend $25 more you know.

    But I guess to find the correct size for my BCM ELW 16" barrel I need to buy the kit and find out which one fits.

    Any info on how these accu-washers work and also how hard the install is???

    I am 100% new to brakes and have never installed them or anything ... the accu-washer talk about degrees and indexing and I have ZERO clue what any of that mean.

    Any help and suggestions on all of this and install would be greatly appreciated.
    PM me. I'll walk you through it. It's far easier than you think.

    It's WAY easier than using a crush washer.
    Last edited by BufordTJustice; 07-21-15 at 09:32.
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    I have both the old and new. Feels the same to me. Both rifles are 16" mid but different buffer system.
    Using the accu-washer is easy. Just follow the direction. It's a trial and error but no big deal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post
    PM me. I'll walk you through it. It's far easier than you think.

    It's WAY easier than using a crush washer.
    Awesome ... thanks for the offer to help Buford ... that is greatly appreciated (and will save me money as well so I don't have pay a local gunsmith to do it correctly for me if possible)
    Current Arms:
    - BCM 16" ELW w/13" KMR on Spikes Lower AR-15
    - Arsenal Bulgarian SAM7R AK47
    - CZ Shadow 2
    - CZ P-10c FDE
    - CZ EVO 3 Carbine FDE
    - Smith & Wesson M&P9 Shield
    - Sig P365
    - Walther Arms PPQ M2 9mm
    - Ruger Precision Rifle .308
    - Beretta A300 Outlander 12G Shotgun
    - And other stuff I can't talk about

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