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Thread: AAR PFT Pistol CQB class

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    Excellent AAR. I am unfamiliar with Mr. Goodale, but this seems like a very practical course. Excellent learning points with shooting from/at vehicles, as well as the knife exercise. Thanks for sharing.

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    Additional comments on class

    Below are some comments from my friend Jon, who attended the course with me. We exchanged several emails back and forth and below are his comments on the course. Thought you all would like to see his thoughts as well.

    My observations:

    1) Reality based, real-world threat and aggressively paced training. Utilizing many of the best offensive and defensive curriculums to move the student rapidly through stress elevated scenarios.



    2) Vast majority of the students used Glock’s this ensured minimum amount of down time for weapons malfunctions, high round count first day with lots of magazine changes and draws. Emphasis on fast hits and repeated follow-up shots that would be required of 9 mm in confrontations.



    3) Several “hands on” encounters with live holstered weapons, in retrospect I was rather leery about these evolutions however, there arrives a point in training where if the “pucker factor” is not up then it is quite likely you are not being pushed. For me if I am not being pushed retention of information is dubious at best.



    4) Bottom line; mission focused essential training that is “mentally agile” if you want to line dance with a weapon in your hand go someplace else, if you want to learn to fight and win at close quarters in demanding situations go see Pat Goodale.
    charlie.lairson@eagleindustries.com
    Law Enforcement Programs Specialist
    Eagle Industries Unlimited, Inc.

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    moved to TCA forum...

    Looks/sounds like a valuable training opportunity.
    Last edited by Jay Cunningham; 07-22-08 at 18:23.

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    Charlie great review and thanks for the pictures. It is good to see PG is doing well. I have attended two of Pat's classes in the past. One being his pistol the other was his carbine course. I was also impressed with Pat and his teaching style. He is a heck of an instructor and a great resource that IMHO is often overlooked by some folks.

    Plus the surrounding terrain is absolutely gorgeous.

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    This was an excellent course and Pat is a first rate instructor. His background combined with his ability to impart knowledge to the student puts him on the short list of instructors for certain.

    Every drill run had a purpose and this purpose was explained in great detail, so every student involved was able to get the most out of it.

    I can without hesitation recommend Pat Goodale to anyone considering seeking reality based training.

    Stay safe.

    Ben

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    I just wanted to add my thoughts about the class. As both Charlie and Ben have stated this was an excellent class. Pat and his crew put on an amazing course that I would recommend without hesitation to anyone.

    The drills and exercises ran in the course were all designed on how to win a gunfight. Pat's layering approach to instructing allowed everyone, no matter what the background, to get a grasp on the drills and be successful.

    One of the things I liked was the fact that we shot some of the same drills during the day and then shot the same drills at night to show the shooters how their skill level and performance changed.

    If you are looking for real world training from an instructor that has real world experience you need to take a class from Pat Goodale and PFT. It was one of the best classes I have taken.

    Justin

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    Very informative AAR guys, thanks, could you go into a little more detail as to loads used and results on the cars and windshields?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnN View Post
    Very informative AAR guys, thanks, could you go into a little more detail as to loads used and results on the cars and windshields?
    John:

    Unfortunately we are not going to be able to put that info on the forum. Even though anyone with access to a scrap yard could figure it out for themselves, we do not want the "bad guys" to get a leg up on those in harms way.

    I am sure you understand.

    Stay safe.

    Ben

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