Page 5 of 11 FirstFirst ... 34567 ... LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 106

Thread: Omega 762 Downside?

  1. #41
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    CONUS: Pa
    Posts
    1,475
    Feedback Score
    7 (100%)
    First thing to do is make a list of your priorities in a suppressor.

    Rank the following by value. (Below is MY ranking from most to least important in regards to center fire rifle cans that are shooting supersonic ammo. )

    -Mount/locking mechsnism
    -POI shift
    -Accuracy
    -Blowback on semiautomatic weapons
    -Signature (flash etc.)
    -Durability
    -Customer service/support
    -Length
    -Weight
    -db reduction
    -Price
    -If the cool kids are running these


    For a pistol/rimfire/subsonic rifle suppressor my list above would shift. For the list above I bought a SOCOM762-RC (accurized AR10) for my 300blk SBR I bought a Saker 762 (before the Omega came out). For my bolt rifle I have a TBAC titanium can, etc. etc. Unfortunately there isn't one suppressor/tool that will be master of all categories.


    The beauty of the current suppressor market is that we have soo many more options than 5 years ago. Arguing over which suppressor is the best is a waste of time. Make a list of YOUR priorities and match it up with what's currently available.
    "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson.

  2. #42
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    7,978
    Feedback Score
    15 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by domestique View Post
    First thing to do is make a list of your priorities in a suppressor.

    Rank the following by value. (Below is MY ranking from most to least important in regards to center fire rifle cans that are shooting supersonic ammo. )

    -Mount/locking mechsnism
    -POI shift
    -Accuracy
    -Blowback on semiautomatic weapons
    -Signature (flash etc.)
    -Durability
    -Customer service/support
    -Length
    -Weight
    -db reduction
    -Price
    -If the cool kids are running these


    For a pistol/rimfire/subsonic rifle suppressor my list above would shift. For the list above I bought a SOCOM762-RC (accurized AR10) for my 300blk SBR I bought a Saker 762 (before the Omega came out). For my bolt rifle I have a TBAC titanium can, etc. etc. Unfortunately there isn't one suppressor/tool that will be master of all categories.


    The beauty of the current suppressor market is that we have soo many more options than 5 years ago. Arguing over which suppressor is the best is a waste of time. Make a list of YOUR priorities and match it up with what's currently available.
    That's an excellent list and for me they would shift from platform to platform and intended use, even in the same caliber. Just a few quick questions. Do any of the three centerfire cans you mentioned excel for it's intended purpose more so than the other two. On a completely subjective note, do you enjoy using one of them more than the others? Which one would you say was the best bang for the buck?

    I ask because I think owning and using a suppressor is more than just a compilation of weights, measurements and decibel ratings. Some things just can't be captured with pure mathematics.
    What if this whole crusade's a charade?
    And behind it all there's a price to be paid
    For the blood which we dine
    Justified in the name of the holy and the divine…

  3. #43
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    CONUS: Pa
    Posts
    1,475
    Feedback Score
    7 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    That's an excellent list and for me they would shift from platform to platform and intended use, even in the same caliber. Just a few quick questions. Do any of the three centerfire cans you mentioned excel for it's intended purpose more so than the other two. On a completely subjective note, do you enjoy using one of them more than the others? Which one would you say was the best bang for the buck?

    I ask because I think owning and using a suppressor is more than just a compilation of weights, measurements and decibel ratings. Some things just can't be captured with pure mathematics.
    Of course. The SOCOM762-RC is laughably loud on my 9" 300blk upper. I have an Octane 9mm that sounds 100x better (one huge reason why I bought the Saker 762... again, before the Omega was released).

    Unfortunately I can't give you specific comparisons on different platforms because I'm too lazy to swap out 3 different brakes. I'm sure the Saker would do very well on my precision AR10, but I already dedicated the SOCOM762-RC to it. I do notice that the SF has less blowback then the Saker, but it isn't a deal breaker.

    If I could only own 1 suppressor (from my collection) it would be the Saker 762. It's longer then my dedicated 5.56 can, but still adequate... it's durable, has a decent mount, and is quiet enough with subsonic 300blk.

    IMHO, I feel like the Omega or even the new TBAC Ultra line would be a great all around suppressor if you could only have one. After that, it's just buying for specific applications. I would love an all TI 5.56 can for my wife's SBR, but it would only see limited use.
    "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson.

  4. #44
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    7,978
    Feedback Score
    15 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by domestique View Post
    Of course. The SOCOM762-RC is laughably loud on my 9" 300blk upper. I have an Octane 9mm that sounds 100x better (one huge reason why I bought the Saker 762... again, before the Omega was released).

    Unfortunately I can't give you specific comparisons on different platforms because I'm too lazy to swap out 3 different brakes. I'm sure the Saker would do very well on my precision AR10, but I already dedicated the SOCOM762-RC to it. I do notice that the SF has less blowback then the Saker, but it isn't a deal breaker.

    If I could only own 1 suppressor (from my collection) it would be the Saker 762. It's longer then my dedicated 5.56 can, but still adequate... it's durable, has a decent mount, and is quiet enough with subsonic 300blk.

    IMHO, I feel like the Omega or even the new TBAC Ultra line would be a great all around suppressor if you could only have one. After that, it's just buying for specific applications. I would love an all TI 5.56 can for my wife's SBR, but it would only see limited use.
    Thanks for the observations!
    What if this whole crusade's a charade?
    And behind it all there's a price to be paid
    For the blood which we dine
    Justified in the name of the holy and the divine…

  5. #45
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    SWFL
    Posts
    3,036
    Feedback Score
    5 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    Even if they throw it on an SBR for HD use, it's still going to mitigate flash
    I would, love to see how well the Omega will mitigate flash. Due to its titanium construction, I am skeptical to say the least.

    This is not my video, the video belongs to another member of M4C, although I'm not sure he's really active on the forum anymore. It compares a legacy Surefire can to a titanium can and you can see how well the titanium can "mitigates" flash for yourself...

    http://youtu.be/11dPIyo3G3A

    Perhaps SiCo found a way to reduce flash despite the titanium construction, but considering they advertise the Omega with a brake on the end, I'm thinking flash reduction was very low on their list of priorities. It seems to me SiCo wasn't really designing this can with the tactical market in mind, it seems like more of an updated Harvester. Regarding the other uses you listed, 26" .300 Win Mag, .300Blkout & 16" 6.8 for hunting, I have zero doubt the Omega would be an ideal can for those applications. I simply question how wise of a choice the Omega would be on a SBR 5.56.

    Being that people are finally starting to get stamps back for the first Omegas within the past couple of weeks, maybe some people who own them have had an opportunity to test them out and chime in.

  6. #46
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    MN
    Posts
    362
    Feedback Score
    26 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    I would, love to see how well the Omega will mitigate flash. Due to its titanium construction, I am skeptical to say the least.

    This is not my video, the video belongs to another member of M4C, although I'm not sure he's really active on the forum anymore. It compares a legacy Surefire can to a titanium can and you can see how well the titanium can "mitigates" flash for yourself...

    http://youtu.be/11dPIyo3G3A

    Perhaps SiCo found a way to reduce flash despite the titanium construction, but considering they advertise the Omega with a brake on the end, I'm thinking flash reduction was very low on their list of priorities. It seems to me SiCo wasn't really designing this can with the tactical market in mind, it seems like more of an updated Harvester. Regarding the other uses you listed, 26" .300 Win Mag, .300Blkout & 16" 6.8 for hunting, I have zero doubt the Omega would be an ideal can for those applications. I simply question how wise of a choice the Omega would be on a SBR 5.56.

    Being that people are finally starting to get stamps back for the first Omegas within the past couple of weeks, maybe some people who own them have had an opportunity to test them out and chime in.
    Only the tube on the omega is titanium while the baffles are stellite and stainless steel. If the QSM was an all Ti baffle stack, that would have likely caused the muzzle flash. I thought I remembered reading that this was common when using a Ti-baffled can on AR's.

    Might be wrong though.

  7. #47
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    CONUS: Pa
    Posts
    1,475
    Feedback Score
    7 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by BC98 View Post
    Only the tube on the omega is titanium while the baffles are stellite and stainless steel. If the QSM was an all Ti baffle stack, that would have likely caused the muzzle flash. I thought I remembered reading that this was common when using a Ti-baffled can on AR's.

    Might be wrong though.
    I believe you are correct. It's my understanding that it's when titanium baffles are used and the can gets really hot that you start throwing sparks. This is the main reason that a lot of titanium precision cans have such a low firing schedule.

    For example: TBAC recommends not getting their suppressors above 700-900 degrees. On a SBR one 5.56 round is roughly 15 degrees per shot (depending on your setup). So, on an average 75 degree day you are only looking at 41-55 shots before you start really melting things.
    "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson.

  8. #48
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    SWFL
    Posts
    3,036
    Feedback Score
    5 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by domestique View Post
    I believe you are correct. It's my understanding that it's when titanium baffles are used and the can gets really hot that you start throwing sparks. This is the main reason that a lot of titanium precision cans have such a low firing schedule.

    For example: TBAC recommends not getting their suppressors above 700-900 degrees. On a SBR one 5.56 round is roughly 15 degrees per shot (depending on your setup). So, on an average 75 degree day you are only looking at 41-55 shots before you start really melting things.
    I'd be really interested to know how SiCo was able to build a can with just the tube being titanium and have it come in at 14oz. There is no such thing as a free lunch so the reduced weight had to come from somewhere, either titanium was used or they skimped somewhere, maybe on baffle thickness?

  9. #49
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    CONUS: Pa
    Posts
    1,475
    Feedback Score
    7 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    I'd be really interested to know how SiCo was able to build a can with just the tube being titanium and have it come in at 14oz. There is no such thing as a free lunch so the reduced weight had to come from somewhere, either titanium was used or they skimped somewhere, maybe on baffle thickness?
    True, I would love to see a baffle stack comparison between the Omega and Saker.

    1687h9g.jpg

    Saker on bottom, Specwar on top.
    "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson.

  10. #50
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    980
    Feedback Score
    1 (100%)
    With the SiCo warrenty I'm not to worried about wearing through baffles. I'm no door kicker.

Page 5 of 11 FirstFirst ... 34567 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •