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Thread: I modified a Geissle trigger to offer 3 positions - safe, SSA, then S3G

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    Quote Originally Posted by protector 6062 View Post
    This might explain the safety set up for my next start up rifle which will turn into a light build done by Spikes Tactical. On a new model just released a couple months ago that I'm excited about it has a 3 stage safety lever. Maybe they are predicting where the market might be going and hoping ATF will approve it without infringing on our rights. IF I'm following correctly with the installing of this G-trigger and modification this would allow single shot and 3 round burst??? If done I'll buy one yesterday. Hkbeltfed this could be a true gold mine for someone like you with the ability to do so.

    Regarding the bolded bit; no, that is incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColtSeavers View Post
    Regarding the bolded bit; no, that is incorrect.
    Thank you for your response and correction. I re-read the entire thread and discovered the error of my ways. The post I made was due to my excitement of what I was hoping for without reading more carefully. Thank you, this is why I wanted to be on this site for. M-16's I know but not the technical and new aspects of M-4.

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    Any update here? Can we maybe get a how to or something?
    when life closes doors on you, blow them off the hinges.

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    I think I'm going to send it to the ATF for approval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hkbeltfed View Post
    I think I'm going to send it to the ATF for approval.
    Yes!! Would you begin making them or accepting triggers to mod for people?
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    OP, you're a genius! Great work, man. Was this your idea, or did you just figure out how to get it done? Can't wait until these come out on the market. I have to assume that this will soon become standard in many competitive circles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingCobra View Post
    Would you begin making them or accepting triggers to mod for people?
    That would be the idea. Making them if anything. The differences are irrespective to the Geissele trigger I started with. I just happen to like Geissele triggers and it was far easier than starting from scratch. I could have used a RRA, KAC, etc to start with.

    Quote Originally Posted by HansTheHobbit View Post
    Was this your idea, or did you just figure out how to get it done?
    The latter. During the deflating hype of that assisted reset trigger, someone on TOS suggested Geissele make a 3 position SSA/S3G. According to the posts, he did and submitted it to the ATF over a year ago. It was never returned and he said it would never happen. So, I took it upon myself.

    Can anyone provide instructions or direct me accordingly on making this submission to the ATF for evaluation? Thanks for the support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hkbeltfed View Post
    That would be the idea. Making them if anything. The differences are irrespective to the Geissele trigger I started with. I just happen to like Geissele triggers and it was far easier than starting from scratch. I could have used a RRA, KAC, etc to start with.



    The latter. During the deflating hype of that assisted reset trigger, someone on TOS suggested Geissele make a 3 position SSA/S3G. According to the posts, he did and submitted it to the ATF over a year ago. It was never returned and he said it would never happen. So, I took it upon myself.

    Can anyone provide instructions or direct me accordingly on making this submission to the ATF for evaluation? Thanks for the support.
    That's nuts. Why would the ATF approve the Tac Con and not the Geissele? For that matter, why would Geissele even have to consult the ATF in the first place since they already approved the Tac Con? Wouldn't that be like me asking them if I could use an M16 carrier? That really gets my goat that the ATF ignored Geissele. In the real world, that's called not doing your job and gets you fired. That whole agency needs to get the chopping block.

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    Hkbeltfed, am I correct in assuming that the weight of the "S3G" position has to be equal to the first stage of the 2-stage position?

    From what I understand is that the first stage is controlled by the weight of trigger spring and the second stage is the weight of trigger spring plus the weight of the disconnector spring. The S3G trigger does not allow for the disconnector to pivot enough to contact the hammer while squeezing the trigger, but still makes it able to catch the hammer during firing.

    I'm guessing your selector controls the disconnector and levels of engagement?

    Quote Originally Posted by protector 6062 View Post
    M-16's I know but not the technical and new aspects of M-4.
    M16s and M4s function exactly the same, especially their fire control groups.
    Last edited by netchemica; 09-19-15 at 13:46.

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    I'm not interested in revealing any info as to how it was done, sorry.

    That said, slight correction for the S3G, it's not a matter of pivoting enough. It's shaped differently avoiding contact alltogether.

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