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    For the 9, I'd look at the griffin rev9. Looks great on paper. Thats what I chose, but I don't have it yet and it's my first one so I can't really provide an opinion.

    It is very quiet per online tests (under 130db)
    Convertable length
    Low cost
    Coated baffles/user serviceable
    3 lug option that doesn't add length

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilson1911 View Post
    Bigwaylon, Can you give me the +/- of the Spectre II and Warlock ? Your pics make me jealous also.
    Not a problem. I'll even toss in some Sparrow opinions.

    Warlock has two advantages over the Spectre/Sparrow:
    1. Cost (in general, Spectre is $75-$100 more than Warlock, and add another $75-$100 for the Sparrow)
    2. Weight (3oz vs 6.8oz/6.5oz)

    Spectre/Sparrow have a couple advantages over the Warlock
    1. Multi-caliber rating (up to 5.7x28)
    2. Cleaning options (the Dip, rotary tumbler, etc)
    3. Usually meter a double dB quieter (although Warlock and Spectre are same OD and length, and similar CTA design, the Spectre baffles are slightly shorter so there are two more than the Warlock)

    So, you can kind of group the Spectre and Sparrow together when comparing them to the Warlock

    Then, to separate the Spectre and Sparrow, I don't see anything the Sparrow does better than the Sparrow.
    1. Cost (Sparrow is $76-$100 more, without any obvious advantage to me)
    2. FRP (Sparrow usually has it, Spectre usually doesn't)
    3. Cleaning (while same methods can be used, the Spectre baffles fit easier into the small rotary tumblers than the Sparrow monocore)

    The Sparrow is .3oz lighter and an inch shorter, but I haven't found that to matter with any of my hosts. It just isn't $100 better to me.

    When I bought my first Spectre, I chose it over the AAC Element 2 and Mack Brothers Lima because neither of them were rated for 5.7x28...which may not matter to most, but I had two hosts for it.

    If I decided to buy another rimfire can, the Dead Air Mask and the Element 2 would definitely be in the conversation, along with a couple others.

    As I mentioned in my last post (which was not intended to be argumentative in any way, hence the smilie), the suppressor market is full of quality products these days. There's something for everybody, whether design or cost is your biggest factor. There's no many segments of the market that prove that more than the user-serviceable rimfire category.

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    I recommend the Thunder Beast Ultra series for precision rifles. The Ultra 9 6.5mm should be amazing. You will not wear it out. If you do, TBAC will take care of you.

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    The thing about titanium is that although they're lighter, they can't sustain a heavy firing schedule so it's best to keep the temp under 800*F. I haven't read of anyone having longevity issues with a Ti can otherwise. I don't understand how/why a Ti can would inherently be more accurate compared to something made from another material other than having less weight hanging at the end of the barrel.

    Best bet would be to talk to long range shooters about the Dead Air Ti and see how they like it. You said accuracy is the most important so it's hard to recommend them because they only came out recently. The price is attractive vs others though.
    People start out wanting to do shooting as a hobby and it ends up their hobby is actually buying and operating expensive tools. Doesn't make sense when you think about it.

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    Thanks Chris, the gunshop owner is trying to talk me into the 30 cal Dead Air Ti. While it may be a good can, I believe it is only 7" and could be used for possible purchases on a 30 cal platform. The TB is way more expensive, but after looking around, there are lots of shooters using them of long range work. Caliber specific and 2" longer would be the deal maker imho. I have not found much in the way of negative reviews on any of the TB sups tho.

    I think for the 22lr I will go with Dead Air Mask HD. I do like the vids I have seen on it and would like to give a try on a new brand. It's built like a tank Ti/SS.

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    The Dead Air isn't a proven performer, although I don't think there is a reason not to expect it to be. The Ultra 9 is about 4-5 oz lighter than the DA at 16-17oz and about $300 more. DA is 8.3" vs. the U9 at 9".

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    Out of everything I am going to purchase, the 22lr is the least important. I have taken several 22 cans apart at the store and the build quality looks good. I will admit it does nothing over and above what say a Spectre II does. But what would I be giving up also ? I do not normally buy into the "New brand" items. I like a more track proven design. This is why the 6.5 CM needs the best one possible.

    If it was a no name Owner/Co as a start up I would choose Spectre all the way. I do not see anything it gives up over the Spectre, the only exception is track record. This is the one thing I do not like about delving into the unknown. I like to buy once cry once. Most of the 22 supps are within 1% of one another and there are way too many to choose from. What makes a big difference is the construction materials and ease of cleaning. The cheaper cans have more POI shift, but most of the high end ones look to be very consistent. Part of me says.....just buy a gemtech its a 22 for heavens sake !!

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    Bigwaylon is right. Look at Griffin for your pistol can. I have a Revolution 45 and I am very happy with it.

    I own a Spectre II and don't have a problem with using it on a handgun. It is heavier but doesn't bother me. I purchased a Dead Air in August and am very excited. Some reviews are out and they are all good.

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    Another option for 7.62 cans is SAS. Capitol Armory and Mile High had these on sale recently, to include demo models.

    I have a Templar Tactical Firearms aka Crux 7.62 can with a brake, which is touted as a high accuracy setup.

    Lots of options! It's a golden age for suppressors. I need a 22 can and thinking about something with steel baffles I can clean in my mini Harbor Freight wet tumbler.

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