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Thread: AR endurance findings, at a rental range, sometimes in excess of 200,000 rounds

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    For those who failed reading comprehension this thread is about a badass range in Vegas. It's not about what makes the guns go bang or should I say proving who's right

    Ron, really dig seeing some pics or video please/Tnx
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    AR endurance findings, at a rental range, sometimes in excess of 200,000 rounds

    Would like to know if any particular brand of rifle (piston or legacy), had multiple failures of the same part? For example, brand a always had a bolt break at the pin, etc...

    Thanks.
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    Not asking to call out by name...just if different brand had multiple common failures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thx997303 View Post
    Hans the Hobbit, this is the last I'll say on the subject. You are wrong. Let it go. Stop digging holes.

    Ron, what kind of lube schedule do your rifles get?
    The weapons get lubed twice a day at a minimum. Once during the morning inspection and again near 12:00 depending on how busy the range is or isn't. Certain weapons like the MP5-SD's in particular need to be inspected more often. The RSO's know to inspect the chamber before shooting to see how dry it is. That's the only weapon I really don't have a problem with RSO's keeping lubed/wet all day. If the action is wet, it's good to go. The RSO's will bring the weapons back to the armorers to lube. I don't like having lube near the armory counter or on the line because some RSO's will be a bit to liberal with the lube and the weapon starts spitting all over the customer.

    I touched on the subject of lubes in one of the threads that I started. In MY opinion, there is no magic lube. We have used so many different lubes in the last three years and if applied on regularly, the weapons will run. My business is focused on weapons running reliably and again, there has never been a lube that didn't work as advertised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorCheney223 View Post
    In MY opinion, there is no magic lube. We have used so many different lubes in the last three years and if applied regularly,

    ENOUGH WITH THE COMMON SENSE COMMENTS.

    THIS IS AN INTERWEBZ GUN FORUM WHERE EXPERTS WILL DECIDE WHAT LUBE IS TO BE USED, OR NOT USED!!!



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    Ron, did I read correctly in the thread on TOS that you tend to use Lucas gun oil currently, due to its tendency to not sling off on your customers clothes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thx997303 View Post
    Ron, did I read correctly in the thread on TOS that you tend to use Lucas gun oil currently, due to its tendency to not sling off on your customers clothes?
    Yes, we are using the Lucas oil on a majority of the weapons. We still use the Slip2000 grease on certain weapons like M1 Garands, M14's and the high-use belt-feds. The M134 miniguns are the only one that gets TW-25 exclusively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorCheney223 View Post
    Yes, we are using the Lucas oil on a majority of the weapons. We still use the Slip2000 grease on certain weapons like M1 Garands, M14's and the high-use belt-feds. The M134 miniguns are the only one that gets TW-25 exclusively.

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    My question may have gotten lost in the wrangling below.

    How have the F2000s held up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorCheney223 View Post
    Yes, we are using the Lucas oil on a majority of the weapons. We still use the Slip2000 grease on certain weapons like M1 Garands, M14's and the high-use belt-feds. The M134 miniguns are the only one that gets TW-25 exclusively.

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    What is it about TW25 that makes it better specifically for miniguns? I was recently told that teflon lubes could build up and cause problems with springs and firing pins, have you ever experienced anything like that? Lastly, would you have any problem using TW25 on your personal ARs, assuming that cost and cleanliness were not issues?

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    The other important takeaway I got from the TOS thread is that contrary to popular internet belief, the SCAR system is extremely durable and tolerant to abuse.

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    I understand why doctor Cheney doesn't want to go into the piston discussion. I'm sure there are other reasons too.

    I wished he would.

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