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Thread: "Binary Firing System" from Franklin Armory - fire on pull AND on release

  1. #61
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    I will purchase when it comes as a stand-alone trigger unit.

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    I may have been too harsh with my earlier, "drive by" type posts. So, in all seriousness....

    My main objection to this is, anyone who could use this in a professional capacity already has superior options via select fire trigger groups.

    For those of us unwilling or unable (by this I mean it's too cost prohibitive) to jump the hoops required to possess a select-fire rifle, this would make a great range toy. As Scott Ryan stated, it just increases rate of fire, and nobody I've ever been shooting with needed a reason to send more lead down range. I'm sure this would excel at that.

    On the HD side of it...I'm not sure I'd want to chance having to defend myself in court if I shot somebody with this. It seems, depending on location, that an anti-gun prosecutor in a liberal part of the country could make an automatic double tap sound real bad. Even though we all know that is crap.

    I still don't like the procedure required to back off after only one round. It seems a little like trying to put the pin back in a grenade.

    These are only opinions, I'll be interested to see how it shakes out.


    Sent from my iPhone

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    Rapid fire can be done very easily with a trigger like a Geissele S3G, and without having to perform gymnastics and forming truly strange and dangerous behavior patterns.
    Actually, even a SlideFire stock might be a viable alternative to this.

    Who know, though. Maybe once I try it, I might change my mind.

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    first thought to mind since seeing people shot with ND's, terror... my bugger hooker is used to what it's used to... I think that's a short lived thing their...

    I got goose bumps.

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    Looks like they are shipping


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    Looks like it could be fun, but the price...

    Also, noticed a malfunction in the video, is he (and therefore every/anyone) going to experience these fcg/bcg timing issues?

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    $525 for a trigger! That's a bit hard to justify.

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    Still find it humorous that they state their trigger has tactical applications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse H View Post
    Still find it humorous that they state their trigger has tactical applications.
    It does. A member over on TOS posted this link of him using the BFS for a 3 gun match, and he really liked it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ColtSeavers View Post
    Looks like it could be fun, but the price...

    Also, noticed a malfunction in the video, is he (and therefore every/anyone) going to experience these fcg/bcg timing issues?
    If they are fast enough on the BFS trigger in binary mode, they may.

    It's not an uncommon thing to outrun the carrier in this type of scenario. Even the BumpSaw, SlideFire, etc. crowd runs into this "issue". The "malfunction" you see in the above video is simply me not being familiar with the system, and I believe the hammer was caught up on the backup (third) disconnector, which required me to pull the trigger all the way back, then release it in order for it to pass the hammer over to the Binary disconnector, then the gun started to run again.

    With an M4/M16, the carrier determines the ROF, so you can't outrun the carrier. In these scenarios, the trigger determines the ROF, and you can outrun the carrier if you're fast enough.

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