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Thread: How could we get suppressors off of the NFA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kremtok View Post
    Clever line of thinking, but I doubt the noise is the only thing they'd want to eliminate.
    Also market it as a "lead/powder containment" device.
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    Begin stigmatizing anyone* who supports anti-gun laws(in any form) being on the books.


    * Those who vote for politicians who will not work to repeal the law and anyone involved in the execution/enforcement of those laws and their support(close family members, friends, business associates).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyCumia View Post
    How could we word a bill?

    I am thinking the "The Noise Pollution Reduction Act" or Hearing Protection Act of 20fill in the blank"
    LOL... sounds like you've been reading too much Calvin and Hobbes...

    It's never going to happen. Period.

    The only two ways I can conceive of are if the government were to disappear, and along with it the NFA, or... and this is kind of my own personal daydream, so feel free to laugh... a few hundred thousand people just started 3D printing suppressors for one outing, or bought some kind of 80%-type kit and finished and just mounted them.

    The law would just disappear because it would be unenforceable.

    Selling stamps for the ATF would be like selling taxi medallions to Uber drivers or collecting hotel tax from Air B&B Operators...

    "Ummm...Mr. Director... Sir... we have a problem... apparently the citizens just don't plain give a **** anymore and are just doing whatever they feel like..."

    Yeah... I know... "you first" and all... but it would work.

    Just look at illegal immigration.

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    That's honestly a brilliant idea. Yeah, it carries a certain amount of risk, but we really cold have safety in numbers. The only trick is getting the technology to the point where it's feasible.
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    Simple.....have them sold in states along with a bag of pot.....the Feds will back away and stop the enforcement of federal laws. Allowing the state to make their own laws concerning marijuana and cans.........

    So, too far fetched?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dist. Expert 26 View Post
    The only trick is getting the technology to the point where it's feasible.
    We're already there.

    Plenty of "disposable" suppressor designs out there of varying durability and merit. Just click print (at great peril).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    No Federal tax AFAIK.
    Google 'marijuana tax stamp'. It's a lot like an NFA tax stamp. I can't believe you guys don't know this.

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    I don't see the government willingly changing NFA laws anytime soon. I can only envision 2 things that could impact current laws in our lifetime:

    1 - 3D printing - as the technology improves and becomes more cost effective, this will disrupt the majority of the manufacturing industry, including firearms. Doesn't mean your suppressor will be legal, but it will be harder for anyone to know about it.

    2 - Government breakdown - hit by asteroid, revolution, bio warfare, any other doomsday scenario

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    Quote Originally Posted by colt933 View Post
    Google 'marijuana tax stamp'. It's a lot like an NFA tax stamp. I can't believe you guys don't know this.
    +1000

    I thought everyone knew marijuana was just wacky tabaccy.



    Anyway, we were a good bit of the way towards nullification of SBR regulations thanks to the SIG brace... and once we had a few hundred thousand folks shooting essentially SBRs with floppy-doppy stocks on them, having a rigid stock wouldn't raise a care in the eyes of law enforcement.

    The problem was that the only folks who jumped on SIG brace were cornballer types- and cornballers love a lot of attention and involvement with the government. They basically forced the ATF to regulate it's use because of the very same mechanism that would have nullified the law- the fact that it was functionally identical to a stamped SBR.

    But again... I'm sure we all know this...

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    How about the tea party folks get with your representatives and senators and try to get the NFA changed/amended to no longer include suppressors? Use hunting rights, hearing protection, and public safety as your justification.

    The law will have to change. ATF cannot reclassify on their own.

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