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Thread: How could we get suppressors off of the NFA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    i see, you're part of the "I believe in the second amendment, BUT...." crowd. Freedom for me but not for thee mentality works great in NY, you'd love it there.

    If you think that firearms should be accessible to every citizen in the US, you are exceptionally deluded.

    This is the kind of BS that gives firearm enthusiasts a bad rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter22 View Post
    If you think that firearms should be accessible to every citizen in the US, you are exceptionally deluded.

    This is the kind of BS that gives firearm enthusiasts a bad rep.
    "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
    So keep everything as it is, and let the crazies go around shooting up schools?

    Makes sense to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter22 View Post
    So keep everything as it is, and let the crazies go around shooting up schools?

    Makes sense to me...
    Considering almost every single mass shooting was in a gun free zone, seems pretty clear to me what the answer is. How about get rid of arbitrary restrictions on where people can carry, something that is already an infringement on the 2nd amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter22 View Post
    If most people knew suppressors were legal for civilians to own, they would be gone.

    Some of you need to stop living in fantasy land, and accept that firearms are too accessible to crazies.
    When/where are they not? In some nations like North Korea/Iran/Cuba, ect they are the only ones with them and they hide behind the badge of "the state"

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberstgreup View Post
    What could they do? Well, let's see...

    Reinstate the "assault weapon" ban with no grandfather clause.

    Ban all sales of ammo in calibers commonly used by the military (several European countries do this).

    Ban all magazines with a capacity > 10 rounds with no grandfather clause.

    Ban everything now included in the NFA with no grandfather clause.

    Institute a national gun registry.

    Ban all handguns.

    Ban all semiauto firearms.

    Need more?

    These are all things the other side would love to have an excuse to do. Do any of us WANT to see any of these happen? Of course not. But many of us FEAR some of these things might happen, especially if we get Queen Hillary the First (which Donald trump is making more likely every day).

    The pendulum has been swinging toward rational gun laws (i.e., rolling back useless restrictions) for about 20 years now and I hope this will continue. However, it's worth thinking about what might give the other side ammunition for its arguments. Like it or not our rights are at the mercy of popular opinion. Whether things OUGHT to be that way is academic. It's how things are.

    When people ask how things could possibly get worse life often indulges in the annoying habit of answering the question.
    And we can avoid all of those bans/laws by not giving them an inch, no more compromises, not more retreats.

    They are the enemy and you never win against your enemy by giving into them.

    Also cut off the importation of Democratic voters via reducing and capping immigration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter22 View Post
    If you think that firearms should be accessible to every citizen in the US, you are exceptionally deluded.

    This is the kind of BS that gives firearm enthusiasts a bad rep.
    You are the kind of Fudd that gives the 2nd Amendment a bad rep.

    You do not want to own a fill in the blank or does not want others to fill in the blank? Great do not own one. But do not limit the rights of others to own what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter22 View Post
    So keep everything as it is, and let the crazies go around shooting up schools?

    Makes sense to me...
    No, lets get rid of laws that punish and limit our right to bare arms and defend ourselves.

    The sea of Liberty is never without a wave, their will always be some crime, some event that will be used by statist to limit our rights, we are done falling for the lies and tricks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyCumia View Post
    And we can avoid all of those bans/laws by not giving them an inch, no more compromises, not more retreats.
    No, we can't. It's not up to us. It's up to the entire electorate, the vast majority of whom are not in either camp. We can shout "No retreat, no surrender!" til we're blue in the face, but if 51% of the voters decide they agree with the other side, there is not a single thing we can do about it.

    This is not war and it isn't football, it's politics. Politics doesn't work like war or football. You don't win at politics by knocking heads, you win by persuading people that you are right. This requires rational discussion, not fanaticism. No retreats is a fine goal and I agree with it but by itself making that pledge accomplishes nothing.

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