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    I just put a LMT on lay-away today. Guess I'll sell my Bushy after awhile. I must say that the Bushmaster (it has the comp and not the flash hider) has almost no felt recoil and has been a pleasure to shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhs1969 View Post
    Cons;
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    M4 stock(got my LMT w/SOPMOD stock)
    only parts out of spec are the hammer and trigger pin sizes
    so all the out of spec parts should be replaceable correct? i'm not familiar with the Colt 6920 trigger. How does the stock trigger compare to other ar15 stock triggers. What would be a good replacement?

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    Absolutely sell the BM (there's plenty of guys out there who will buy a Bushy) and pick up the Colt LE 6920. If you want two carbines (as others have suggested you do) and you said money is not an issue, pick up another Colt, and then sign up for a good carbine course (which is where the BM's are known to kick the bucket). A BM might make a fine plinking carbine, but I wouldn't have anything to do with one in any type of Self-Defense or SHTF situation - just my experience and observations, YMMV, but I'm sticking with my Colt until perhaps FN makes and markets a civillian legal M4 in the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballsout View Post
    so all the out of spec parts should be replaceable correct? i'm not familiar with the Colt 6920 trigger. How does the stock trigger compare to other ar15 stock triggers. What would be a good replacement?
    They are replaceable but with Colt oversized trigger and hammer pins, not with mil. spec sized (smaller) pins. When stocking up on spares you will have to get the Colt trigger, hammer and pins. I wouldn't recommend replacing the stock trigger on a carbine but others may.


    Absolutely sell the BM (there's plenty of guys out there who will buy a Bushy) and pick up the Colt LE 6920. If you want two carbines (as others have suggested you do) and you said money is not an issue, pick up another Colt, and then sign up for a good carbine course (which is where the BM's are known to kick the bucket). A BM might make a fine plinking carbine, but I wouldn't have anything to do with one in any type of Self-Defense or SHTF situation - just my experience and observations, YMMV, but I'm sticking with my Colt until perhaps FN makes and markets a civillian legal M4 in the U.S.
    You would spend less money upgrading the BM than taking the loss in selling it. It, like any other mechanical device, can be improved. A lot of people are just BM haters. I can understand to a point, I've found several things on mine that was substandard but they are completely serviceable when corrected. Check out the 'knowledge base thread', and Grant has a big post somewhere that shows the short comings and corrections on BM's. I belive it is titled 'A day the the life of a Bushmaster dealer' or something close. This should answer your questions.

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    If your life depends on it get the colt...for fun as a beater use the BM

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    Yeah I think i'll have both. Besides the large pins on the Colt is the trigger at least decent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballsout View Post
    Yeah I think i'll have both. Besides the large pins on the Colt is the trigger at least decent?

    It may vary rifle to rifle but I would guess that it would be fine. I have owned a total of six Colts (these were all in the late 80's thru mid 90's,) and had no complaints on their triggers. I've owned something like 15 different BM's and the one I currently own has the heaviest trigger of all but is still completely serviceable. I also aquired a LMT the first of this year and it's trigger is SWEET, and it is a standard, single stage trigger. If these are to be used/kept for serious use I would recommend against a two stage/match trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballsout View Post
    Yeah I think i'll have both. Besides the large pins on the Colt is the trigger at least decent?
    Go try one if possible before you buy. LMT and Noveske have good triggers. It's generally considered one of the best AR stock triggers, and it's the best stock trigger on a semi-automatic rifle I have ever tried (that leaves quite a few others out there).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinD View Post
    Go try one if possible before you buy. LMT and Noveske have good triggers. It's generally considered one of the best AR stock triggers, and it's the best stock trigger on a semi-automatic rifle I have ever tried (that leaves quite a few others out there).
    The colt trigger is the best stock trigger? or you mean the LMT&Noveseke

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballsout View Post
    The colt trigger is the best stock trigger? or you mean the LMT&Noveseke
    The stock trigger on my current Colt is the best I have personally tried, which is one of many reasons it's the only carbine I use/rely on. However, I tried an LMT trigger that was very good a while back, and it is possible that their current production triggers are as good or even better than Colts. If at all possible I would try to dry fire a few Colts and LMTs if you can, because there may be some vairation in how good my Colt's trigger is (although all the Colt 6920 triggers I've tried are excellent for my needs anyway). The Noveske is a very good trigger, but I just didn't get one that was up to par with the Colt's I have fired or dry fired. Even though I am a big Colt fan, I would test dry fire the LMT and see how you like it. I think it is a fine carbine that I would have no trouble relying on for plinking or serious work.

    Despite being labeled a "BM Hater", I stick by what I said. I do not want to buy a carbine with "substandard" parts and then make sure that everything else will work when I need it. It's almost like saying you can "upgrade" a Porsche 914 to perform like a Porsche 959. Yeah, they are both Porsche's (AR carbines) but a 914 will never perform anything like a 959.

    With the money in question, you could sell your BM on any number of sites where uninformed buyers will snap it up from you and you probably will not lose too much money. Take that money and put it into an LMT and you'll have two serviceable carbines that you could modify for different purposes. For example, use the Colt 6920 and set it up as your short/medium range carbine, and (if it was me) get an LMT with a heavy 20" barrel and turn it into a nice longer range rifle (esp. with either 75gr or 77gr 5.56mm ammunion (a bullet weight the 1 in 7 twist Bushy cannot shoot) - just a thought or two or three . . . . .

    DD the "BM Hater"

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