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    Despite being labeled a "BM Hater", I stick by what I said. I do not want to buy a carbine with "substandard" parts and then make sure that everything else will work when I need it.
    Oh, I completely agree with this, my point is that he (like me) already has a BM. And I certainly will not consider another (ACR could prove the exception but I'll let others prove it out). In addition to our BM and LMT we are now planning a third carbine (LMT MRP, SCAR and ACR, one of these will be next). When we get the third carbine the BM will be regulated to crap detail, meaning truck/trunk duty, camping gun and any use that will subject it to environmental abuse or any general abuse, so it will still have it's use. Me, personally, I no longer get rid of any firearm that has a use and proves up to the challenge of that intended use. But that's just me

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhs1969 View Post
    Oh, I completely agree with this, my point is that he (like me) already has a BM. And I certainly will not consider another (ACR could prove the exception but I'll let others prove it out). In addition to our BM and LMT we are now planning a third carbine (LMT MRP, SCAR and ACR, one of these will be next). When we get the third carbine the BM will be regulated to crap detail, meaning truck/trunk duty, camping gun and any use that will subject it to environmental abuse or any general abuse, so it will still have it's use. Me, personally, I no longer get rid of any firearm that has a use and proves up to the challenge of that intended use. But that's just me
    Nothing wrong with relegating it to "crap detail" or some other intended use short of being the primary source you rely on to protect yourself and those you care to protect. And I also understand anyone who does not want to sell or otherwise part with any firearm (no matter how bad). Personally, I have never sold a firearm to a private party (not that there's anything illegal with doing so) because of, well . . . . a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with BM's.

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    I thought I would add this post after what my BM M4 went thru yesterday. We had a small family get-together yesterday at my bother-in-laws house. He lives outside town a ways, and has a 50 yard area where he shoots. He told me to bring the "AR" out. Having 2, I deceided to only bring out the BM with 23 loaded 30 round magazines, or 690 rounds for those of you in Rio Linda.

    150 of which were loaded with Wolf steel 55 gr. The remainder was reload 55 gr. from a gun show, PMC Tiawan, Remington, American Red box and some other 62 gr. stuff. It was hot. 100 degrees. Its also Tucson -dusty. We shoot in the shade, but its still hot. Me, 2 brother-in-laws, 2 wifes, 1 cousin and a father-in-law all took turns ripping up paper targets, water cooler, 2 computer CPU's, a monitor and about a dozen 5 gallon water jugs. My brother-in-law found 2 more boxes of Wolf he had, so 40 more rounds went thru bringing the total amount shot yesterday to 730 rounds (190 Wolf)

    The result? - absolutly 100%. Not ONE single ANYTHING. Boring reliability. Like shooting Glocks. The sling melted at the front because one of the ladys was shotting it from a table rest and the sling was under the barrel. There is still a glob of sling that has permantly stuck to the underside of the barrel near the lug. At times we rapid fired it and on 2 occasions (2 magazines) I did the rubber band around the mag well full-auto trick to the point where the barrel was smoking! Great time! Cleaning on the other hand late last night? Not so fun. Very dirty. I wish I took a picture to show what this many rounds looks like in this heat a cheap ammo. Black sludge is how I can best describe the bolt. I run Mobile 1 20W 50 full synthetic in all of my firearms, and I made the bolt wet in a quick-once-over prior to going out to the in-laws. That helped I think.

    I say this because I attribute this reliability to the few, simple and cheap upgrades (I believe necessary upgrades) to the rifle per Robs recommendations. This bastard can run with any of them, I trust this thing and is fun because it works. So in other words, keep your rifle. Buy another one too. The point is go out see if it works and let it rip. You maybe suprised (if its like mine) how reliable AND accurate this gun is, or can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinD View Post
    With the money in question, you could sell your BM on any number of sites where uninformed buyers will snap it up from you and you probably will not lose too much money. Take that money and put it into an LMT and you'll have two serviceable carbines that you could modify for different purposes. For example, use the Colt 6920 and set it up as your short/medium range carbine, and (if it was me) get an LMT with a heavy 20" barrel and turn it into a nice longer range rifle (esp. with either 75gr or 77gr 5.56mm ammunion (a bullet weight the 1 in 7 twist Bushy cannot shoot) - just a thought or two or three . . . . .

    DD the "BM Hater"
    I've upgraded the extractor on my Bushmaster with a new spring, insert and "O" ring. Ran a few mags of Wolf through it the other day and it worked fine. BTW....Wolf 75gr ammo was designed to work in 1 in 9 twist barrels. I read that somewhere but can't remember where right now. Pretty sure it was in one of the several gun mags I have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdacbob View Post
    I've upgraded the extractor on my Bushmaster with a new spring, insert and "O" ring. Ran a few mags of Wolf through it the other day and it worked fine. BTW....Wolf 75gr ammo was designed to work in 1 in 9 twist barrels. I read that somewhere but can't remember where right now. Pretty sure it was in one of the several gun mags I have.
    I can't speak to Wolf ammo. I use XM193 for practice and Hornady 5.56mm 75gr for the ready to go mags, and I know that it will not shoot accurately from a 1 in 9 barrel; it's probably in the knowledge base thread about what you need to do when you realize you bought a BM/Stag. See how that Wolf 75gr does at about 300m+ I will be surprised if it shoots anywhere near as accurately as 55gr. Also, I assume it's .223? That should make the problem of 75gr weight + 1/9 twist even worse.

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