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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony.L View Post
    I've purchased three M951's brand new in the box on eBay for less than $100 each.



    Correct. Here is my M961XM07 that I got off eBay for around $100 brand new. However the push button tail cap cost me more than the light...

    And you know that they're not fake?
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    Stop dicking the dog, please. It's gross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryno12 View Post
    And you know that they're not fake?
    Correct, they are not fake. I know the difference, but thanks for asking!

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    Grant at G&R has the correct barrel for $269. It's a Colt 10.3" barrel. http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...on&key=SP64049

    It sounds like you are going for the early SF/ODA CQBR (not mk18) clone, so some of the stuff will be different than the original mk18mod0 or CQBR block 1.5/2.


    Your lower as a stand in for a 727 lower/M4 lower correct for the time period
    Car Stock with Rubber pad zip tied for good measure
    H2 or H3 buffer
    Standard End Plate

    Colt upper, AF marked if possible
    Colt 10.3" barrel
    Colt or USGI contract BCG
    KAC RAS
    NT4 Suppressor mount/Suppressor OR BE Meyers 249 Flash hider
    PEQ2 or time period correct visible/IR laser



    Aimpoint Comp M in QRP mount

    or Eotech 511, Eotech 553.
    Matech buis


    Various lights, the famous pics typically have the Surefire "ganster grip" M900


    Also note the block 1.5 PR (phased replacment) with SU231 and later PEQ IR laser

    [IMG] [/IMG]

    With waffle stock and C MORE sight



    PR with BE meyers and ACOG

    Last edited by Split66; 09-30-15 at 13:14.
    http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRQ2zEv1ukzyH_aeFG6-amwPk7CUBz7b4URcTQ8lFFl-LOLSDkQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Split66 View Post
    Grant at G&R has the correct barrel for $269. It's a Colt 10.3" barrel. http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...on&key=SP64049
    G&R Tactical is good to go for Colt clone build parts. I got my 10.3" Colt barrel from them plus a several Colt LPK's to go with Colt stripped lowers I got off GunBroker. I would also watch GunBroker, sometimes you can find parts slightly cheaper listed on there. I've bought thousands worth of Colt parts over the past 3 years for clone builds.

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    Thanks Split, that's the direction I am going! So you would you say a cut Colt carry handle would be a no-go?

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    All of the CAG/ODA/SF/Army CQBRs I've seen in photos have had Matechs or possibly KAC Buis. If you check out Oliver North's book "American Heroes in Special Operations" you can glimpse a few other ODA CQBRs here and there.
    http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRQ2zEv1ukzyH_aeFG6-amwPk7CUBz7b4URcTQ8lFFl-LOLSDkQ

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    M4/CQBR Clone, too soon to be retro?

    Quote Originally Posted by Split66 View Post
    Grant at G&R has the correct barrel for $269. It's a Colt 10.3" barrel. http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...on&key=SP64049
    For the exception of the can & lower, all the major components were sourced from Grant.
    There's a few part that aren't original Colt like safety selector, CH, stock, and grip but those go on all my builds. It's not an exact clone but it wasn't intended to be.


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    IMG_4868 by splittiebus 66, on Flickr



    I based mine around Kyle Defoor's mk18 or an early SEAL mk18 in general. It's all Colt. It has the incorrect suppressor though, no PEQ2, an incorrect FM cover for the Surefire, a RAS instead of a RIS, and no select fire. Well sometimes....




    cloned gun


    Last edited by Split66; 09-30-15 at 13:46.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony.L View Post
    I've purchased three M951's brand new in the box on eBay for less than $100 each.



    Correct. Here is my M961XM07 that I got off eBay for around $100 brand new. However the push button tail cap cost me more than the light...


    These are either NOS or NIB:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Surefire-M95...item33aa286fa0

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Surefire-M95...item33aa287863

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Surefire-M96...item33a9e817e5

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    Here is a little bit of info.

    Upper and lower receivers: The lower receiver is a standard M4A1 lower receiver sometimes modified with the addition of a CQD RSM sling adapter plate. However, many CQBR rifles also use surplus M16A1 lower receivers. Internally, the CQBR also takes advantage of a larger gas port and modified bolt carrier and buffer assembly. The gas port has been opened to 0.070 in (1.8 mm). A number of Lewis Machine & Tool 10.5" (266.7 mm) upper receivers have also been reported to have been purchased for the CQBR program. These upper receivers feature a gas system optimized for short barrel use.

    Sights: Initially, detachable carrying handles cut down so that only the rear sight assembly was used. However, most of these have been replaced with the similar, commercially-made Lewis Machine & Tool adjustable rear sight. Also used are several types of reflex and magnified optics, most commonly seen is the Aimpoint CompM2 in a Wilcox Industries Corp. Picatinny (MIL-STD-1913) mount.
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