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Thread: Froglube and Fireclean...Pre treating/conditioning

  1. #101
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    I just don't see the point of using boutique lubes from gun-specific companies. They're never going to have the R&D power that somebody like Shell will.

    You want something exotic? Get the lube they use on drilling equipment in salt mines or something.

    Otherwise, I just can't really wrap my head around paying fireclean or froglube prices for really simple chemical mixes with a lot of marketing behind them.
    Full disclosure: I'm the editor of Calibre Magazine, which is Canada's gun magazine. In the past I've done consulting work for different manufacturers and OEM suppliers, but not currently. M4C's disclosure policy doesn't seem to cover me but we do have advertisers, although I don't handle that side of things and in general I do not know who is paying us at any given time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 223to45 View Post
    cleans up easier, stays put, stays wet longer,
    Let me preface this by saying I'm currently using fire clean and am happy with it. For me slip ewl 30 cleaned up about as easily as FC, stayed put better and stays wet about the same amount of time. I've never experienced the ease of cleanup or carbon cleaning power that everyone boasts about. FC works, however it doesn't seem to work any better than anything else for me. The nice advantages that I have found while using FC are how smooth it makes the trigger pull feel and how smooth the action is. I also like that it's non toxic and doesn't dry out or hurt my hands in anyway. I'll either buy more FC when I run out or go back to using ewl 30. I'm sure I'll be happy either way. I have nothing positive to say about froglube.

    Follow the directions, degrease, apply and be happy.
    Last edited by K1tt3n5; 12-15-15 at 22:48.
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    I thought fire clean was just re-branded crisco vegetable oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rermey Lee View Post
    I thought fire clean was just re-branded crisco vegetable oil
    You actually believed that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    You actually believed that?

    Yes. I still do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    You actually believed that?
    Is there evidence to the contrary? I mean not that it's not specifically Crisco, but that there's something in it rendering significantly different than regular vegetable oil?

    Vegetable oil does get used as an industrial lubricant in some applications so it's not without precedent. And really, if it's an organic, non-toxic product options are pretty limited. But if there's nothing else in it, or certainly if there's nothing that alters its properties significantly from the base oil, why not just use the base oil?

    I mean if there's evidence for something in it that would give it noticeably superior properties, I'm open to that, but I haven't seen that evidence anywhere, personally. Not saying it's not out there, of course, but I haven't seen it.
    Full disclosure: I'm the editor of Calibre Magazine, which is Canada's gun magazine. In the past I've done consulting work for different manufacturers and OEM suppliers, but not currently. M4C's disclosure policy doesn't seem to cover me but we do have advertisers, although I don't handle that side of things and in general I do not know who is paying us at any given time.

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    Major reading comprehension issues coming to light here.

    This has been settled. Definitively.
    "That thing looks about as enjoyable as a bowl of exploding dicks." - Magic_Salad0892

    "The body cannot go where the mind has not already been."

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    It is a veg oil
    It is not off the shelf "Vegetable" (soybean) oil
    It is not off the shelf canola oil

    It behaves much differently than either when used in and ar for lube.

    If you don't know what you're looking at, ir scans can be very misleading.

    Op, you need to degrease thouroughly with something that doesn't leave a residue.
    Last edited by MegademiC; 12-17-15 at 09:19.

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    If there was one thing to ever keep me away from M4C permanently it would be these ****ing lubricant threads.

    Why is there so much passion and emotion tied to this stuff?
    Why do the loudest do the least?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    If there was one thing to ever keep me away from M4C permanently it would be these ****ing lubricant threads.

    Why is there so much passion and emotion tied to this stuff?
    Agreed.
    Not much less interesting than arguing about lube.
    Find something that works for your requirements and shoot the gun.
    My only issue is when people push bad data or spread misinformation good products that have a good track record.
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