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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewell View Post
    You've got to be kidding me. I can't believe I ever supported this shit. In all honesty, I never had a problem with the regular Froglube freezing up in cold tempetures, but now, they are telling you you need this, and you have to pay even more money for this crap to ensure it works in the extreme cold? They are calling this a gamechanger? Why? There's a million other lubes out there that have always worked in extreme tempetures. Somewhere, there’s a group of Seals out there laughing their asses off at how far they have been able to take this joke.
    From what I have herd from real insiders is that NO Seal will ever admit it sucks, but quietly some do under there breath. All I can say is originally when I bought it I didn't give a rats ass who made the stuff, but if anything over the last few years I have seen that community as detriment as a whole in recent years. What ever happened to the "Silent professionals".

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    I can't believe there is so much Froglube hate here. To preface I use what works for me, Im not loyal to any brand so no Im not here to defend Froglube and get emotional over it. I also use Slip 2000 EWL CLP for cleaning and sometimes all three are mixed together without issue. Having said that, in my personal experience I've never had it cause malfunctions in any of the weapons I use it on, and I don't follow the instructions (I use alot) I haven't shot in an arctic environment so far but never had issues during winter months either. Before my 2 last Afghanistan deployments when I first bought FL all my personal weapons were cleaned, degreased, then lubed with FL. All unpainted steel parts had a thin layer of FL applied via my fingers before I locked them away in my safe. Seven months later I take my guns to the range and they shoot, the FL isn't waxy, not gumming up the action.

    I know YMMV but in my experience FL works fine and I haven't had a problem with it. I won't buy anymore because I still got a 4 FL OZ jar left so I will keep using it until I run out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawusmc0844 View Post
    I can't believe there is so much Froglube hate here. To preface I use what works for me, Im not loyal to any brand so no Im not here to defend Froglube and get emotional over it. I also use Slip 2000 EWL CLP for cleaning and sometimes all three are mixed together without issue. Having said that, in my personal experience I've never had it cause malfunctions in any of the weapons I use it on, and I don't follow the instructions (I use alot) I haven't shot in an arctic environment so far but never had issues during winter months either. Before my 2 last Afghanistan deployments when I first bought FL all my personal weapons were cleaned, degreased, then lubed with FL. All unpainted steel parts had a thin layer of FL applied via my fingers before I locked them away in my safe. Seven months later I take my guns to the range and they shoot, the FL isn't waxy, not gumming up the action.

    I know YMMV but in my experience FL works fine and I haven't had a problem with it. I won't buy anymore because I still got a 4 FL OZ jar left so I will keep using it until I run out.
    I used FL exclusively for years. I was usually one of the people defending FL on here, telling people to follow the directions, and how they won't have problems if they do. I never experienced problems in cold temps, or issues with it gumming up either, until recently when it did gum up on me. At first, I started coming up with excuses to why this happened...then I decided, who cares? It's bullshit, it's unacceptable, and it's not something a person should have to ever worry about when there's tons of other lubes out there that won't do this. Lucky for me this was a gun I was just taking out to shoot for fun and not one my life was depending on.

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    Its weird because theres so many internet accounts of Froglube gumming up but I haven't experienced it. I never heated up my guns before application, even in the cold when the paste is hard, I still slather on the moving parts and it works. I've even used it on my issued M4 without issue.

    Yes, if a lube fails on you then find something better, especially when theres so many good products on the market. I don't understand peoples brand loyalty. Find what works for you and use it, don't worry what others think unless they spread misinformation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawusmc0844 View Post
    Its weird because theres so many internet accounts of Froglube gumming up but I haven't experienced it. I never heated up my guns before application, even in the cold when the paste is hard, I still slather on the moving parts and it works. I've even used it on my issued M4 without issue.

    Yes, if a lube fails on you then find something better, especially when theres so many good products on the market. I don't understand peoples brand loyalty. Find what works for you and use it, don't worry what others think unless they spread misinformation.
    There's a difference between internet accounts and first hand experiences. A lot of folks here, myself included, had firsthand experiences of FL failing. There's honestly no rhyme or reason to it. Some guys followed the directions, some didn't. It worked fine for some, but for others it turned into glue. It doesn't seem to matter if you did it right or not, it's just the luck of the draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtdawg169 View Post
    There's a difference between internet accounts and first hand experiences. A lot of folks here, myself included, had firsthand experiences of FL failing. There's honestly no rhyme or reason to it. Some guys followed the directions, some didn't. It worked fine for some, but for others it turned into glue. It doesn't seem to matter if you did it right or not, it's just the luck of the draw.
    Too note: I never experienced any Failures of any kind with Froglube, but where it failed was the dinge that started coming out after over a while. Anyways since dumping froglube my first magazine on all guns fired up here in Canada 5 rds mags I had 2/5 rds primer strike no fire. Then all other magazines fired were fine after that.. I cleaned my guns of froglube then added CLP for next firing schedule which had those results.

    In my conclusion there is something fishy about this product, I don't trust it and there is much more I want to say but can't yet!

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    I want to know which frog lube you folks were using, the paste, the goo or wipes? I use all three without issue, I also tend to clean my defensive use guns more often because of use. The guns that do sit for months at a time are cleaned with fl via the same good wipe down with rags then fl slather as the defensive guns. No issues to date, I will note that the lid to my goo is gummed up in spots, so who knows... am I stupid for staying with something that works for me and not for others?
    Last edited by lazerblazer; 10-05-15 at 10:56. Reason: Hit send too soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazerblazer View Post
    I want to know which frog lube you folks were using, the paste, the goo or wipes?
    All three.

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    I think people who clean often and follow the instructions don't have problems for two reasons.

    Reason 1) The stuff doesn't stay there long enough to old and gel/gum up.

    Reason 2) And this is the super obvious indication the stuff is garbage.... The instructions basically tell you to completely remove all of it. The stuff does not soak through your finish and embed itself into the pores of the base metal, only to expose itself when the temp goes up a little. It just doesn't. The people who sell this junk have to know that it will clog up your gun or they wouldn't tell to get it off the gun before you use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuse View Post
    I think people who clean often and follow the instructions don't have problems for two reasons.

    Reason 1) The stuff doesn't stay there long enough to old and gel/gum up.

    Reason 2) And this is the super obvious indication the stuff is garbage.... The instructions basically tell you to completely remove all of it. The stuff does not soak through your finish and embed itself into the pores of the base metal, only to expose itself when the temp goes up a little. It just doesn't. The people who sell this junk have to know that it will clog up your gun or they wouldn't tell to get it off the gun before you use it.
    Reason #2 is what always confounded me. I was criticized for using too much FL and "over lubing". That's horseshit. The critics always said, you're only supposed to use a light coat and wipe away the excess. Translation: you have to clean the gun every time you want to relube. No thanks.

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