Seeing how testy big media got when Trump brought up how it is all rigged.
I'd say there has to be much truth to his claims. Otherwise...why would they get so riled up and gone on and on about how "dangerous" talk like that is?
Seeing how testy big media got when Trump brought up how it is all rigged.
I'd say there has to be much truth to his claims. Otherwise...why would they get so riled up and gone on and on about how "dangerous" talk like that is?
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They are psychopaths. I love all these "investigations". You could catch them with their pants down in broad daylight and the FBI would issue a press release that their pants were in fact not down.
Journalism is dead. Critical thinking is more important than ever. My favorite is all the "Russian hacking". The news articles never contain a single statement to back it up. Like anyone is that dumb to take CNN or the New York Times at their word.
This morning I had a realization that the country is beginning to assume that Trump has already lost it, and the allegations of voter fraud, democrat collusion with the media, paid agitators, registering aliens and dead people, and whatever else you want to throw in add up to one thing: this doesn't end with the election.
If Trump loses, his supporters are going to believe that the election was stolen from him just like the primaries were stolen from Bernie Sanders...What then?
We have crossed the Rubicon.
Yes, I know millions won't care as long as the beer is cold and the trains run on time, but millions will. And the ones who feel cheated will have no salve for their anger. Not this time.
Unlike in previous elections where it was "assumed" there was cheating, this one has had it confirmed from multiple outlets.
Do you think the Trump supporters are going to just "accept" the outcome and go sulking back to their lives?
Don't kid yourself. He was ahead until all the underhanded horseshit was thrown at him. People are already chanting "CNN sucks" at Trump rallies.
This is the election of "I'm as mad as Hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!"
And when these "mad as Hell" people lose, do you think they're just going to hang their heads and accept it?
I think they will continue the agenda of revolt by other means.
When even Republican opinion leaders have disavowed Trump, do you think People will just go back to listening to Glenn Beck....or Kasich....or Karl Rove...or name your person...when this is over?
HELL NO.
The Republican party is already irreparably damaged. A Trump win MIGHT.....and this is even doubtful.....MIGHT reunite the party if Trump turns out to be so popular that he has huge coat-tails.
More likely, though, some of these idiots in the Republican party had better watch their backs: people like John McCain who might just pull it out again this time but sure won't next time. John Kasich? Sorry buddy, but if you thought helping Trump lose makes you a more viable candidate in 2020, you'd better think again. The Trump supporters will have a long memory and will look for even the smallest opportunity to take their revenge on a turncoat. Maybe we'll even hear some recordings of your inappropriate comments, eh, Mr. Kasich?
The Trump loyalists will abandon the party rather than take the beating even their own pundits have administered. Game. Set. Match. No more Republican presidents. The independent-leaning thinkers will flock in droves to third parties rather than continue to eat shit sandwiches served to them by the Republican establishment.
And what about the election process itself? The Democrat party has been caught trying to sway the election through unconventional means. That does not inspire nice behavior. The next election could very well turn into a civil war.....that is....if a civil war doesn't preclude our even having another election. At the very least people are not going to go back to campaigning, voting, and accepting the integrity of the election process like they used to. Not only "why should they", but also "how can they?"
It is half-passed "way beyond too late" for that.
The real danger to the country after this election is that people will have so lost faith in our republic that (at the very least) voter participation drops precipitously, leaving it open for one party to control everything from now on.
At the same time, the "mad as Hell" faction may very well decide it's time to stop voting with the ballot box and start voting with the cartridge box. At the very least I expect "civil disobedience" and more and more "uncivil" disobedience.
I want to make it clear I'm not advocating or condoning violence. I have no idea how truly pissed off the electorate are at this point. What I do know is that the Trump supporters are rabid in their loyalty, preferring to give no quarter to any opposition. If that gets magnified by a gigantic Trump loss, who knows what could happen?
If Hillary wins, it could be the biggest pyrrhic victory in United States history. All the cheating, voter fraud, etc., could inspire a political rebellion on the order of "we know this person is not legitimate. We will not let her victory stand." Although I think the Republican establishment, who ostensibly is helping her win, will probably not oppose her--the legions of "great unwashed" may very well be pissed off enough to attempt some real damage to the democrat party's chances next time.
Trump himself may very well be indignant enough to challenge the election results. Not even Al Gore went there in 2000 although he circled the drain hinting he might.
No, the 2012 election was the last "innocent" Presidential election in US history.
From now on, I would not want to be caught with a bumper sticker of the wrong political party on my vehicle, nor would I want to admit my political affiliation to the wrong group of people.
It's Childhood's End for this Republic....if you can still call it a Republic.
I would not want to be thought of as a person who helped steal an election by 100 million people who are angry at being ripped off.
I'll give you an actual incident as an example. Jeff Bingaman was a Senator from New Mexico and voted for Obamacare. One Sunday morning I saw him in a completely unguarded moment in a local bookstore.
Even though he was already retired, what if I had been one of those people left with high insurance deductibles (or no health insurance), and had decided to take it out on Mr. Bingaman's face? I know it's a hypothetical scenario, but it illustrates how a person cannot be on guard all the time.
The sad thing is that if people keep escalating the rhetoric and retaliation over the sullied election process, then this country can only slide into an abyss from which it will not emerge as a single entity.
The United States of America is over as we know it. We will never again graciously accept defeat, because victory will no longer be considered legitimate.
Only the strong and/or cunning will survive to enforce their wishes.
Last edited by Doc Safari; 10-18-16 at 16:53.
Well said Doc
”Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people”
~Tench Coxe
I'm at the point now I don't give a shit anymore if you voted for Hillary you are my enemy I lost friends and family over this election and as far as I'm concerned, if she allows millions of illegals in and we turn out like Sweden, or Germany I won't extend a hand to help a victim who voted for this shit and can't seem to figure out why they are spit on beaten raped robbed or whatever. F"c k you
”Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people”
~Tench Coxe
”Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people”
~Tench Coxe